New RN program at Sumner College???

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    http://www.sumnercollege.edu/blog/


    I just read this article on the Sumner College blog website about a RN program they are going to be having there...they already have a LPN program too. I'm amazed schools keep on opening RN programs...I just want to get into one of them!!!!
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    I am actually applying to this school for the RN program. I will be taking the TEAS next month. Their program will be offered twice a year, in June and December. I am so very excited and really hope I pass the TEAS sicne that is what they are mainly looking at
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    A word of caution: RN and LPN jobs are VERY difficult to find in the Portland area right now. I would think long and hard before going into this kind of debt for a LPN or ASN degree... it's a very expensive program with absolutely no guarantee of a job at the end of the tunnel. I honestly don't know what all of the ASN new grad RN's are doing in this market because I am a new BSN grad (December '11) who is having a hard time finding a job - and I'm not alone. Many of my cohort members are still looking for jobs and we're all second degree students with BSN's, excellent GPA, and a fair amount of life experience.

    All I can say is that I hope the market improves before you get out.
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    Hello...and help!

    I was wondering if you applied for and started the RN program at Sumner? I am looking into applying for the January 2014 quarter, but I have been reading some bad reviews. Low graduation rates, degrees that aren't accepted outside of Oregon, and credits/degrees that are not recognized by 4 year colleges for procession to a bachelors. Any insight that you could provide?

    Thanks!

    Thanks!
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    I hope you take my advice to heart. Summer College is a for-profit school and generally these programs are of low quality and high price. These types of programs began popping up when the phrase "nursing shortage" became popular. What is true now is that a nursing shortage does not exist for new grads with no experience. I think if you have a year or two under your belt the market is at least decent.

    The job market is tough for all BSN nurses, tougher for the ASN nurses from all the community colleges. The challenge for these jobs will almost be insurmountable because hospitals are aware of for profit schools and the quality of education. Because Sumner and for profits like them market to those who are eager and I hate to use this word-Desperate to get into a program. I know going thru the process to apply to a traditional school is challenging with no guarantee of acceptance, but you'll find yourself with a degree that the job market considers inferior and a ridiculous debt level that will impact you for the rest of your life. The burden from that debt will prevent you from ever pursuing anything else. My advice is to keep whatever job you have now and take prereqs at pcc or comparable junior college, get your CNA license and work that job- then apply to pcc/equivalent or linfield, univ port or other Bsn program. Sumner college will be the biggest mistake of your life.
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    pnlu077,

    Thank you for your honest reply. I was accepted to the program for Jan. 2014, but am thinking seriously about backing out. I have already taken all of my pre-reqs up through Microbiology. I applied to a local community college which takes the top 40 TEAS test scores; I missed the top 40 by about 2% (three questions!) on the TEAS. :-( I was extremely upset, and really looking for another option to start around the same time. Now I am stuck: go through with this program or get my CNA and re-apply at the Community College. I hate to take the risk of not getting accepted AGAIN, but my eventual goal is a Masters in Nurse Midwifery...and not a single program I can find will accept a degree from a Nationally vs. regionally accredited program.
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    I have to give my two cents about this. All nursing programs are hard to get into at the ADN level, and 'for profits' are no exception. All you need to do is pass the NCLEX and get your license to get into the field. I wouldn't recommend anyone to apply to University of Portland if they can go the route of Sumner or another similar type of school. U of P charges $19,000 plus books and fees per semester and the upper level nursing courses are 5 semesters minimum. I met with the school. In addition to that, you have to take a ton of prereqs - that you may be able to complete in 1 to 2 additional semesters if you are lucky. So you will pay for 6-8 semesters at $19,000 each, which is $115K - $150k. Sumner is listed at $46k and then you can go online and get your BSN for around $40K so you have close to half the debt... as far as the job market I work in healthcare and we just look for the BSN and active license.. for what it's worth. If you decide to take the pre-reqs somewhere else then you have to wait until the class is available. So it really comes down to time and money. I know someone who graduated from Sumner that works with me and they got pell grants for school and left with only owing $15,000 in loans when they got done with their LPN program. She is making $22 an hour now so keep researching and good luck!
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    The first cohort of from this program graduates in February 2015 and their pass rates for their LPN program are very high. I am seriously considering it. I'm putting myself into more debt by attending pcc. By the end of the year I will have as much debt as attending this whole 2 year program would be.


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