ITT Tech's New Program???

Guest407017 · Mar 18, 2011

CuriouseME,

Thank you for using critical thinking skills and a professional approach to addressing this thread. I was gone for this last year completing my first year of nursing school and reading some of the posts now was very disappointing. I didn't expect to see that people miss understood my intentions of providing information. Thank you for having an open mind and attempting to clarify.

In response to peoples miss understanding my intentions on here concerning ITT tech, i never thought it was a terrible school I personally would never over pay for my education and i would never limit my ability to continue my education at an affordable price. Oregon is an OCNE run nursing program state which means that if you aren't OCNE approved school then your nursing credits will not transfer. This leads to the ITT tech students only being able to transfer to other for profit colleges.

I was never able to get an ITT rep to tell me how much tuition was or give me any information over the phone, i had a terrible time finding information on their web site and the reps just kept trying to sign me up for the information seminars. However when i contact other schools local to the area and OCNE approved they are more than willing to share any information with me without getting me to come into an information session. I hope this information helps someone out there trying to make a decision.

medic75 · Mar 30, 2011

I'm in the ITT program in Oklahoma City. I was in another nursing program in this city and making good grades, but the hatefulness and punitive attitude of the faculty put so much pressure on us, some of us couldn't take the stress. They treated us and accused us as if we were all cheaters. They watched our every move and tracked all our comments on the computers as that was the only way to communicate with the faculty. In lab, we had students teaching students. The school was terribly disorganized. The experience was so awful I had a nervous breakdown and almost committed suicide.
The ITT classes meet once a week, but we've had med/surg clinicals twice a week, giving us more time on the floor, which is great! We read just as much in this program as I did in the other, but the teachers are more helpful and are happy to spend time with us one-on-one. We also aren't required to buy extra books to supplement (as we were in the other school). We don't have a long list of movies to watch on our days off (as I did in the other school). Our care plans aren't 20+ pages long and they're not critical of our care plans, but rather, sit down with us and talk about them. I love that I have access to my teachers anytime I need them. They give us their personal cell phone numbers on the first day of class.
The classes are small enough that the teachers get to know us as humans: our strengths and weaknesses. They work with us and care about us. The program chairman knows each of us by name.
Yes, it's horribly expensive, but I plan to be able to pay off the loan once I become employed. So far, we've left good impressions at the hospitals we've worked in. The nurses in one of the hospitals begged me to apply for a job, which means ITT has taught me effectively what I need to know to become a nurse.
Our credits transfer only to the University of Phoenix, which, I heard, is in trouble for illegal financial dealings (I don't know).
The HESI is a piece of cake. Just review your anatomy/physiology books before you take it and you'll do fine. HESI tests are given periodically throughout the program to make sure we're on track.
The entire program is 27 months (or 9 quarters) with little time off. No summer breaks. The order of classes by quarter is:
1. Introduction to Nursing
2. Pharmacology and Fundamentals of Nursing
3. Med/Surg I + clinical
4. Med/Surg II + clinical
5. Gerontology + clinical
6. Mental Health + clinical
7. OB/GYN + clinical
8. Peds + clinical
9. Leadership (don't know about clinical)
Of course it's wise to check out every aspect of a program before you commit.
Hope this helps you in whatever decision you make.

The program also requires Microbiology, AP 1 and 2, Intro to Psych, Sociology, Ethics, Comp 1 and 2, and other core classes. You will be able to transfer to a BSN program easily after the NLN accredidation goes through, which it will. theres alot of red tape with any nursing program.

Kmolss01 · Mar 31, 2011

I currently go to itt and am impressed how they actually help you learn the material.... They go above and beyond

hannahbear · Apr 7, 2011

Hi guys..I'm new to these threads. I just went to an information session for the ITT Tech in Indy yesterday! I am very interested in starting, but hesitant also. I'm curious when the school will actually get their accredidation. I talked to recruiters from IU Health (which includes IU, Methodist, Riley) and they WILL NOT hire from a school w/out their NLNAC. St. V's & Hendricks are the same way. Are there any grads from this program that can chime in here? Thanks!

RN2064 · Apr 14, 2011

Hi guys..I'm new to these threads. I just went to an information session for the ITT Tech in Indy yesterday! I am very interested in starting, but hesitant also. I'm curious when the school will actually get their accredidation. I talked to recruiters from IU Health (which includes IU, Methodist, Riley) and they WILL NOT hire from a school w/out their NLNAC. St. V's & Hendricks are the same way. Are there any grads from this program that can chime in here? Thanks!

Hannahbear,

I am an ITT Tech grad from 12-2009. While it is true IU Health (previously Clarian Health) will not currently hire a ITT grads, that will change come July when the NLNAC announces the accreditation. I am a previous Clarian employee for several years and they would not even consider me although Indiana Clinic an affiliate did offer me a position that I turned down. ITT Tech Indianapolis has worked real hard for the NLNAC accreditation. Grads from my class currently work at St Vincent, St. Francis, St. Francis Hospital-Mooresvile/Beech Grove, Hancock Regional, Wishard, Dekalb Medical in GA, an ER in Louisville KY, various doctor offices in and around the Indianapolis metropolitan area, home care, with the department of corrections, and even for the State of Indiana. I had almost 30 people in my graduating class. Many work others places too. So finding a job after passing your NCLEX will not be a probably. If you are still worried, then just wait until after July to ensure that they will get NLNAC before you commit to anything. Do what is best for you. I hope that helped.

AmyORlpn · Apr 16, 2011

I agree, BUT it is also crazy trying to get into a community college in Oregon. I am a LPN and graduated from Pioneer Pacific College 4 years ago. I have been working on trying to get an LPN to RN bridge. NOTHING available. I have tried clackamas community college.....WHAT A JOKE. I'm enrolled in Excelsior, passed 2 prereq's (which i have to retake because PPC credits don't transfer) Oregon must be the worst state for collaboration between programs. You would think that with such a "SHORTAGE" of nurses that there would not be so much trouble getting your RN degree. I plan to get into whatever RN program I can that isn't a community college. Don't know what else to do.

Sorry for the rant but 4 years of frustration built up...... Any suggestions?

CuriousMe · Apr 16, 2011

I agree, BUT it is also crazy trying to get into a community college in Oregon. I am a LPN and graduated from Pioneer Pacific College 4 years ago. I have been working on trying to get an LPN to RN bridge. NOTHING available. I have tried clackamas community college.....WHAT A JOKE. I'm enrolled in Excelsior, passed 2 prereq's (which i have to retake because PPC credits don't transfer) Oregon must be the worst state for collaboration between programs. You would think that with such a "SHORTAGE" of nurses that there would not be so much trouble getting your RN degree. I plan to get into whatever RN program I can that isn't a community college. Don't know what else to do.
Sorry for the rant but 4 years of frustration built up...... Any suggestions?

One of the problems in OR, is that many CC's dropped their LPN to RN bridge programs when they went OCNE, so there are just less options than there were.

LoveMyBugs, BSN, CNA, RN · Apr 16, 2011

I agree, BUT it is also crazy trying to get into a community college in Oregon. I am a LPN and graduated from Pioneer Pacific College 4 years ago. I have been working on trying to get an LPN to RN bridge. NOTHING available. I have tried clackamas community college.....WHAT A JOKE. I'm enrolled in Excelsior, passed 2 prereq's (which i have to retake because PPC credits don't transfer) Oregon must be the worst state for collaboration between programs. You would think that with such a "SHORTAGE" of nurses that there would not be so much trouble getting your RN degree. I plan to get into whatever RN program I can that isn't a community college. Don't know what else to do.
Sorry for the rant but 4 years of frustration built up...... Any suggestions?

I understand your frustration, it took me 3 years of applications before I got into a program, many people I went to school with had tried up to 6 times, while others got in on their first try

I just saw in the newsletter that OSBON puts out that Carrington has a LPN-RN bridge program. But there is no nursing shortage in OR, far from it. To get my first job I had to go to Vancouver

dsignrgrl · Apr 25, 2011

Hi guys. ITT recently started an ADN program in Orland Park, Illinois, about 40 minutes from Chicago. I have attended the info session, taken the HESI (which was not bad, I scored an 88) and just today met with financial aid to go over tuition and such. I am just wondering if there is anyone out there who is currently in ITT's Orland Park program. According to the nursing director there, I have a very good chance of getting into the program to start this June because of my HESI score, and just wanted to know how current students like or dislike the program thus far?

I have to say I never thought I would ever apply to a technical college but since I have applied to over 5 other colleges (community and universities) and have not gotten in this is a blessing!Yes, tuition is higher then a CC would be, but at this point I am willing to pay higher prices to get in right away.

Also, everyone keeps saying your credits dont transfer and such. Once you have passed your state boards and have an RN license you can pretty much apply to most, not all, but most RN to BSN programs. The only credit that may not transfer are your basic Gen Eds, like english, math, psych....I wont have that problem because all of my Gen Eds were completed at my CC. But for those of you who are starting at ITT from scratch might run into this issue if you plan to go further in your education.

Again, Anyone who is currently a ITT Orland Park, IL student any isight would be great!!! Thanks!

webgrl · May 20, 2011

webgrl, who are you?

Hi Steener77, I'm Larina - who are you??

christinamuniz · May 20, 2011

Ah! Finally!! It's me, Christina :)

PDXPonySN913 · Jun 8, 2011

I'm in the ITT program in Oklahoma City. I was in another nursing program in this city and making good grades, but the hatefulness and punitive attitude of the faculty put so much pressure on us, some of us couldn't take the stress. They treated us and accused us as if we were all cheaters. They watched our every move and tracked all our comments on the computers as that was the only way to communicate with the faculty. In lab, we had students teaching students. The school was terribly disorganized. The experience was so awful I had a nervous breakdown and almost committed suicide.
The ITT classes meet once a week, but we've had med/surg clinicals twice a week, giving us more time on the floor, which is great! We read just as much in this program as I did in the other, but the teachers are more helpful and are happy to spend time with us one-on-one. We also aren't required to buy extra books to supplement (as we were in the other school). We don't have a long list of movies to watch on our days off (as I did in the other school). Our care plans aren't 20+ pages long and they're not critical of our care plans, but rather, sit down with us and talk about them. I love that I have access to my teachers anytime I need them. They give us their personal cell phone numbers on the first day of class.
The classes are small enough that the teachers get to know us as humans: our strengths and weaknesses. They work with us and care about us. The program chairman knows each of us by name.
Yes, it's horribly expensive, but I plan to be able to pay off the loan once I become employed. So far, we've left good impressions at the hospitals we've worked in. The nurses in one of the hospitals begged me to apply for a job, which means ITT has taught me effectively what I need to know to become a nurse.
Our credits transfer only to the University of Phoenix, which, I heard, is in trouble for illegal financial dealings (I don't know).
The HESI is a piece of cake. Just review your anatomy/physiology books before you take it and you'll do fine. HESI tests are given periodically throughout the program to make sure we're on track.
The entire program is 27 months (or 9 quarters) with little time off. No summer breaks. The order of classes by quarter is:
1. Introduction to Nursing
2. Pharmacology and Fundamentals of Nursing
3. Med/Surg I + clinical
4. Med/Surg II + clinical
5. Gerontology + clinical
6. Mental Health + clinical
7. OB/GYN + clinical
8. Peds + clinical
9. Leadership (don't know about clinical)
Of course it's wise to check out every aspect of a program before you commit.
Hope this helps you in whatever decision you make.

Thank's for sharing your experience. My experience with _______ , an Oregon community college within the OCNE program, was similar to yours...only I didn't go suicidal. I did have what turned out to be, not heart attacks, but maybe anxiety attacks - due to faculty harassment. Maybe it should be considered a small blessing, that such disturbed nurse educators are abusing healthy nursing students, instead of injured and ill patients....allthough at least patients have legal rights and advocy groups to defend them?

I was an A student in an Oregon nursimg program...until I was denied the right to take my finals. They can do that, I discovered, if a nurse educator dosen't like something about you. They also don't have to teach you, if they don't want to, but you still have to pay your tuition and go to clinicals. If an Oregon nursing student injures a patient, it is not the nurse educator's problem. It's the student's problem - we were told. Fortunately, I'm an experienced CNA and so my patients were safe. Not all students in this nursing program did have CNA experiences...

According to my nursing educator, if you hold Prolife views, you "cannot make rational decisions, and just cannot cut it as an RN." ...this is what my Oregon nurse educator told me.

I know. Those who are wiser than me would say I should have known not to take DNA as indication of species, and not to have admitted to having personal Prolife tendancies, when asked. Or maybe I should have lied. I'm not much good at lying, though. I should have known this, when other nurse educators in my program made claims that; "...the fetus is not human, until the cord is clampped. It is a parasite." and ..."It has been scientifically proven (by Dr. Emoto of "What the Bleep!!...Down the Rabit Hole" assigned NUR preparation materinals in one Oregon nursing program,) that we can change physical matter with our thoughts." It's OK. Call me stuppid. I told them to give my seat to someone else, because that is one phsychological circus of horrors, that I do not wish to join again. However, I now deeply regret not asking what exact species the human fetus is, before the magic of a clamp turns it into a human species..... I doubt I will ever find that answer in any scientifically based book, and now I don't know what the answer is ....if it should come up on the NCLEX. I'd seriously, like to know what species of parasite I was carrying, when I was pregnant with my child....?

The program I was in, was what I would call, a phsychological circus of horrors. I would gladdly pay twice the cost of ITT Tech, to get a real, and a serious nursing education. I did not see that happening, at the Oregon community college program I was in. I just want a chance to be the best RN I can be - without being discriminated against for my personal views. If they hadn't gone out of their way to find out, they would never have known. Based my personal experience with OCNE, I cannot reccommend the OCNE program to anyone. I am more than willing to pay many times more for a nursing education with ITT, because I expect I will get more:

More respect as a human being (species)
A higher quality of science in medicine
Higher quality educational resources
More of an example of high ethics
More quality time from my instructors
...and yes, more hands on Technology in medicine - medicine is heavily influenced by technology, and I can think of no better educator for nursing, than an institution with a long standing history in technology training. If nursing is not about techniques and technologies, then what is it about?

If not one single healthcare agency wants to hire me in all of the United States, and not one sigle college wants to accept me into a BSN program in the United States, because my nursing education is from ITT Tech - that is their perogative and that is their loss - because I intend to leave no stone unturned to become the best RN I can be. ITT graduates have to take the exact same exams as the rest of nation. If an ITT Tech nursing graduate is willing to take greater chances, to ay more, and to pass higher bars than other nursing students just to become an RN, why discredit their degree? That's silly. If no one wants me with my nursing skills in all fo the United States, I will take my nursing education and migrate to another country - a third world country, if I have to. I want to become a nurse. A real nurse, and a good nurse.

I cannot say that I understand why there is such hostility toward ITT's nursing program. Given the projected nursing shortages, I'd expect everyone would be happy to see a new nursing program in town, expecially the hospitals. I did attend a community college nursing program in Oregon. I wouldn't return to it, if tuition were free. If I had to guess, I might say people are hostile toward ITT Tech's nursing program, because people from established programs are afraid of a little honest competition. Maybe they are afraid ITT Tech might raise the standard, and turn out better techically skilled nurses, because technology is right down ITT Tech's alley. Maybe they are afraid the best students will chose ITT first, if ITT is the only show in town not abusing their students. What I do know is this, I've demonstrated that I can do A level work in a "traditional nursing program", and I could not be happier to have the free choice in where to get my nursing education. I can chose to become a nurse, while chosing not be abused and defrauded of an education I paid for. I can chose ITT Tech. I am very happy that ITT Tech has a nursing program. I have no problem paying more. I believe I am getting more.