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Jun 21, 2009 10:38 AM

"TIME BACK" vs. Overtime $$ pay


I work in an O.R. that has no 3-11 p.m. staff, nor an 11-7 a.m. staff, therefore our 16 hours of call begins at 3 P.M. after working an eight hour day. Frequently, there is more than one room running past 3 P.M., so additional staff is needed besides the call team to finish the scheduled cases. We are reimbursed in "time" rather than $$ for the O.T. For example, if we stay one hour late, then, sometime during that week we are told to leave 1.5 hours early. We do not punch out on the days that we leave early and our manager adjusts our time to reflect a 40 hour work week. So, our unit never shows any "OVERTIME WORKED"...... The "call team" gets paid "call pay..at time and 1/2...put that is reflected as "call $$ on the books, not overtime). Some of us would prefer the $$, rather than having time back, but, there are some people who like being able to leave early as well. Should we be given the OPTION? We are also concerned that by our department never reflecting any "overtime worked" that this may sabotage our efforts in attempting to get more staffing...or a 3-11 staff. Regularly scheduled cases continue to be booked past 3 P.M., in an attempt to increase business..which is understandable....and, with today's economy, the nurses are all willing to be flexible and do their part. We are just wondering if anyone else has ever run across this type of situation and what options we may have with regard to requesting to be paid the O.T. rather than being told to leave early during the week on another day.

Thoughts?

Thank You....


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No. 1
from SandraCVRN
Old Jun 21, 2009, 05:26 PM

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Is management open to various shifts? We have 10's and 12's to cover the late cases.

Plus, if we are "forced" to work late, ie no one to relieve you, we (most of us) put that time on a call sheet.

Good luck
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No. 2
from maeyken
Old Jul 01, 2009, 12:15 AM

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We too have 10h shifts, but we are staffed 24/7. We have a choice of whether to bank the time, or take the money. We do a fair amount of OT, but it is counted as such. Doesn't make management happy, but it's that or cancel more cases (which they don't want us to do either...)
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from linda2097
Old Jul 01, 2009, 05:24 AM
Updated Jul 01, 2009 at 05:55 AM by linda2097

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Let's do the math. Let's say you get paid $30 an hour.

Staying late for an hour equals 41 hours of work including 1 hour of time-and-a-half.
(40 x $30)+(1 x $45) = $1,245.
$1,245 divided by 41 hours = $30.37 an hour.

Going home 1.5 hours early equals 39.5 hours of work. Your boss adjusting it to 40 hours (which is fraud by the way) equals (40 x $30) = $1,200.
$1,200 divided by 39.5 hours = $30.38 an hour.

So, economically, the choices are equal. But considering that giving you 8 hours pay for 6.5 hours of work is fraud, which is illegal, and that you are aware that the fraud is taking place, I would choose the old-fashioned time-and-a-half method.

I would tell my boss that I am not comfortable taking part in fraud.
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from micco
Old Jul 03, 2009, 01:53 PM

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if you are being forced to take comp time for overtime worked, i think that is illegal. i would discuss this with your manager and state that you would like receive $$ from now on. may be this needs to be addressed with human resources. you are being denied fair compensation. it is different if you are offered a choice between comp time and $$.
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from cmermaid
Old Jul 07, 2009, 11:00 AM

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I agree with the other posts. What your boss is doing is fraudulant, illegal, manupulative, and undeniably wrong. Take this issue to upper mgmt,human resources and administration.
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No. 6
from tadpolern
Old Jul 26, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Huhhhh.....the adminstration is IN on it too...we have been suddenly placed on "salary", we are suddenly referred to as "professionals"... get paid for 40 max.....even if we work 50hrs....still have to clock in and out, mandated to take call, do not get paid for call time or if you have to return to work...NO pay...sounds illegal to me, but we, RNs dont have any controll over what is dictated to us by our poor state nursing agencies nor the wage and hour labor board. Now RNs can be exempt and paid a flat salary and NO overtime...and mandated to work over as necessary without pay or "THEY", the ones who dont know how to do a nursing job, but make the RULES to their favor, say it is "abandoment of patient". RNs need some type of legal leverage...we are used and abused all to often.....So the question is, "What to do?" Any suggestions?
trn
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No. 7
from cmermaid
Old Jul 26, 2009, 02:18 PM

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Call Joint Commision.
Call the media.
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from linda2097
Old Jul 27, 2009, 09:35 AM

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Look in your local yellow pages and call an employment attorney. Ask for a free consultation.
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from cmermaid
Old Jul 27, 2009, 02:38 PM

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How have you and your coworkers been feeling? Febrile? Sore throat? N&V? Diarrhea? Sounds like a blue flu to me!
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