Nursing Program @Grand Canyon University - page 7

Anyone know if the GCU nursing program is ok? Good teachers? Accredited? I know it's expensive and they were financially strapped as of Jan '04, but supposedly that's behind them.... Read More

  1. Visit  ArborVitae profile page
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    Keep in mind Grand Canyon comes from a baptist backround as it is now, it's still a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN school, I think it's bogus to complain about the "religious requirements"!
    I have several friend's who graduated from their BSN program they all have very good jobs and have said nothing but good things about the education they received. However because Grand Canyon is a private university you will pay more than in a public funded university. It all comes down to preference, if you don't agree with the theology you don't have to attend the school. Plain and simple.
  2. Visit  ArborVitae profile page
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    Just to clarify the above post wasn't directed at "one specific person" just toward the "religious complaint" in general.
  3. Visit  Kabin profile page
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    Quote from bdtjohnson
    I am looking to attend and found this thread.

    You are the only person I've seen in all of these boards to really say anything negative towards this school... did you attend GCU and have a bad experience with them?
    In the past problems arose from GCU staff selling the program and not being forthright. They downplayed the school's religious element. I recall a previous part time GCU nursing instructor on this forum downplayed too. And remember some GCU students enroll in non-traditional programs (those already having BS, BSN, etc) and religious studies requirements were waived. In the end, it was more religious than originally presented and there were numerous school growing pains. Hopefully some of it has been corrected in the last several years as they provide another local avenue for those needing a nursing education.
  4. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
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    Quote from Kabin
    I recall a previous part time GCU nursing instructor on this forum downplayed too. .
    And I recall that same former nursing instructor admitting that the RN-BSN program at GCU was a diploma mill...
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  5. Visit  Arizonabuckeye profile page
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    And I recall that same former nursing instructor admitting that the RN-BSN program at GCU was a diploma mill...
    Ill take a BSN (traditional) from GCU any day of the week over an ADN from the best CC in the state. Know matter how you cut it a BSN>ADN....
    Last edit by dianah on Jul 4, '09 : Reason: Removed personal attack
  6. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
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    Quote from Arizonabuckeye
    Ill take a BSN (traditional) from GCU any day of the week over an ADN from the best CC in the state. Know matter how you cut it a BSN>ADN....
    If that were the case, then CC wouldn't have a chance, and neither would ADNs.

    I actually have experience with many GCU students. And, well, everything I've said is true.
    Last edit by dianah on Jul 4, '09 : Reason: Removed inflammatory remarks
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  7. Visit  Arizonabuckeye profile page
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    If that were the case, then CC wouldn't have a chance, and neither would ADNs.

    I actually have experience with many GCU students. And, well, everything I've said is true.

    .....And in todays market with the plethora of new grads, those with the BSN will have the advantage over someone with an ADN.

    I have tons of associates all around the valley with various forms of medical experience, they tell me that GCU hands down has one of the top nursing schools in the state if not the best.
  8. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
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    Quote from Arizonabuckeye
    .....And in todays market with the plethora of new grads, those with the BSN will have the advantage over someone with an ADN.

    I have tons of associates all around the valley with various forms of medical experience, they tell me that GCU hands down has one of the top nursing schools in the state if not the best.

    The last several new grads that we've hired have been ADNs. So, that tired old argument isn't true. That's not based on theory, or presumptions. That's based on real hiring practices. In real life. Go figure.

    Also, I've had the opposite experience, plenty of hospitals saying the prefer the CC grads, and that GCU grads are not top quality.

    The difference is, I actually KNOW this, have experience with GCU students and grads. I don't need to "hear" it from 'associates' or other people. I can make up my own opinions. Based on real experiences.
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  9. Visit  Multicollinearity profile page
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    And I recall that same former nursing instructor admitting that the RN-BSN program at GCU was a diploma mill...
    Yes, I remember that.
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  10. Visit  Multicollinearity profile page
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    Quote from Arizonabuckeye
    .....And in todays market with the plethora of new grads, those with the BSN will have the advantage over someone with an ADN.

    I have tons of associates all around the valley with various forms of medical experience, they tell me that GCU hands down has one of the top nursing schools in the state if not the best.

    Arizonabuckeye,

    Your statements remind me of the GCU (sales) representative who used to constantly email me, trying to get me to apply. The top universities don't try to sell themselves and deluge students with sales pitches. Nope, they just take the top students and reject the rest.

    Now you are correct that a BSN is often desirable. However, all pre-licensure programs, BSN and ADN, are not equal. Some BSN programs are lacking or suboptimal, just as some ADN programs are. GCU is known for accepting the student, not his or her GPA, as it is commonly stated on the board. It's a high-tuition program that tends to pick up those with lower GPAs, those who have been declined at the state universities. How you are attempting to parlee this status into "one of the top nursing schools in the state if not the best" puzzles me.

    Now all this said, be proud of whatever nursing school you choose to attend. A few years after graduation, it doesn't really matter so much where you went to nursing school. A lot of this sniping we read on the board only comes from students, as nurses out there working really don't care about ego contests regarding whose school is better.

    Put yourself in the shoes of a hiring manager at a hospital. You've got two new grads to pick from. Canditate A has a BSN from GCU, a GPA of 3.1, and is young and inexperienced. Candidate B has an ADN from a tough community college known for "weeding out" and a 4.0 GPA. Candidate B is a 30-something career changer with years of work experience demonstrating mature people skills and savvy problem-solving experience. I'd venture to say candidate B, with the ADN is in a stronger position.
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  11. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
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    So well said multi!

    And, since I sit on an interview board, I can tell you thiat this is EXACTLY what we look at!
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  12. Visit  nnicolee profile page
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    Quote from multicollinearity
    Arizonabuckeye,

    Your statements remind me of the GCU (sales) representative who used to constantly email me, trying to get me to apply. The top universities don't try to sell themselves and deluge students with sales pitches. Nope, they just take the top students and reject the rest.
    OMG isn't that the truth, they will not stop calling ..........................and all they talk about is their positives (such as cadavers lab) and not the fact that their board pass rates are of the lowest out of ALL AZ schools- the adviser claimed that this was because "anyone" at any point was allowed to take the boards.... hmmmm yeah don't believe it or that they're located in one of the WORST parts of Phoenix........ My main grievance with GCU is that my mom wanted to attend their because she wanted the religious atmosphere but when the adviser heard about a "rising star" early high school graduate like myself she totally disregarded my mom. That's totally not cool. I have completely written off GCU as a nursing school in AZ because they are NOT professional.
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  13. Visit  Multicollinearity profile page
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    I still get sales pitch emails from GCU, and I'm about to graduate from another nursing program!

    All this said, I really don't want to make statements that might make GCU students feel badly. They should be proud of their nursing school just like I'm proud of mine. My reason for posting here was to address the issue of GCU being "the best nursing program in the state" and the BSN always > ADN nonsense.
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