Drexel University ACE Spring 2010 - page 35

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Hello all, I just received a letter from Drexel saying that my application for the ACE program is now complete and Iím waiting for a response. I was wondering if anyone else here is applying for the same program and received an... Read More


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    What hiddencat described regarding the way hesi is given is what you'll expect. I'm not sure if you are the first class to receive this letter telling you what happens for not passing the final hesi but this letter is a very recent thing because my cohorts did not receive a letter like that. I'm glad they send out this document now because my class and previous ones were basically left in the dark about it. We had already invested so much time in the program when we found out, and leaving or going to some other school would have been a waste. It's also good to hear how they are offering more review session, definitely take advantage of that if you can.
    Joujoubee I think difficulty of class or clinical is a based on the individual and what you're required to do and your interest in the area of nursing. I wouldn't say any clinical was really difficult, but that there is a lot of work involved with most. Some classes are harder than others too, obviously, but the material itself isn't impossible to learn. The fast pace of the program has a huge impact because it is a lot to learn in such a short time, but it is doable. You will have to sacrifice some of your social life and may not be able to have a part time job but it's only temporary. I hope that helps!
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    Thanks Hiddencat and Opheliak. They are probably now sending those letters because of complaints from your cohort and those before you. Hopefully, our class will be better prepared having received that letter and getting heads up from you guys and others on this site.

    I actually bought the Reviews and Rationale book but I only opened it the first day I got it. It's a little overwhelming right now.
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    Thanks Hiddencat and Opheliak. They are probably now sending those letters because of complaints from your cohort and those before you. Hopefully, our class will be better prepared having received that letter and getting heads up from you guys and others on this site.

    I actually bought the Reviews and Rationale book but I only opened it the first day I got it. It's a little overwhelming right now.
    Yeah, I think they must have started that in response to complaints. They should have done that from the beginning, imo, but it does seem like they respond to comments like that- I went to a meeting with the Dean and was told that they are in the process of reorganizing the ethics curriculum based on feedback from students (it's spread through 3 quarters now and they are moving it all to quarter, not for you folks in the spring, but I think the next fall cohort) and I think they're also adjusting the informatics curriculum to be more nursing focused than it was for us. I've found the support services to be very helpful (when schedule permits) and just mentioned to someone at the CLRC that the reason I hadn't gone to many review sessions this quarter was b/c I have evening clinicals and the study sessions have all been in the evening, and he asked me why I hadn't mentioned something earlier in the quarter b/c he would have scheduled additional sessions. I've heard previous graduates say there wasn't a ton of support, so maybe this is also new.
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    Hiddencat thanks for your feedback regarding my train vs driving inquiry. Also, this may be a silly question, but do students wear business casual every day to class? The letter I received regrading orientation states that the dresscode for orientation day is business casual ... now I am curious if this is required in the Center City campus at all times? Thanks!
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    Hiddencat thanks for your feedback regarding my train vs driving inquiry. Also, this may be a silly question, but do students wear business casual every day to class? The letter I received regrading orientation states that the dresscode for orientation day is business casual ... now I am curious if this is required in the Center City campus at all times? Thanks!
    People wear what makes them feel comfortable. Some of my classmates dress up and some of us wear jeans. Don't worry too much about the orientation dress code- about a third of the class didn't notice the request for business casual and came in comfortable clothes. I'm honestly not really sure why they want business casual- everyone's in the large assembly hall and it's basically just a lot of speakers on various things you need to know.
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    Quote from hiddencat
    Yeah, I think they must have started that in response to complaints. They should have done that from the beginning, imo, but it does seem like they respond to comments like that- I went to a meeting with the Dean and was told that they are in the process of reorganizing the ethics curriculum based on feedback from students (it's spread through 3 quarters now and they are moving it all to quarter, not for you folks in the spring, but I think the next fall cohort) and I think they're also adjusting the informatics curriculum to be more nursing focused than it was for us. I've found the support services to be very helpful (when schedule permits) and just mentioned to someone at the CLRC that the reason I hadn't gone to many review sessions this quarter was b/c I have evening clinicals and the study sessions have all been in the evening, and he asked me why I hadn't mentioned something earlier in the quarter b/c he would have scheduled additional sessions. I've heard previous graduates say there wasn't a ton of support, so maybe this is also new.
    Could any ACErs maybe take a second to explain why Q2 is so rough? Is it the classes and if so, which ones are the worst? Or is it the balancing act of classroom workload with 3 days of clinical. Also, are we tested on the three clinicals separately, together or is one of the classes (300, 301, 303, 308) just about the clinicals, or does each class have its own clinical (except Pharm) because I see they're 6 credits. Sorry I realize that was a lot of questions, but just trying to figure out why Q2 is so rough and how I can try to set myself up for success in preparation (mentally and educationally) for this term.

    Sidenote: goodbye Summer
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    Sorry hidden, didn't mean to quote that reply of yours. I was just referring to yours and others messages earlier about Q2's difficulty rate. Thanks!
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    Could any ACErs maybe take a second to explain why Q2 is so rough? Is it the classes and if so, which ones are the worst? Or is it the balancing act of classroom workload with 3 days of clinical. Also, are we tested on the three clinicals separately, together or is one of the classes (300, 301, 303, 308) just about the clinicals, or does each class have its own clinical (except Pharm) because I see they're 6 credits. Sorry I realize that was a lot of questions, but just trying to figure out why Q2 is so rough and how I can try to set myself up for success in preparation (mentally and educationally) for this term.

    Sidenote: goodbye Summer
    Everyone's perspective will be a little different on which quarter is most difficult, depending on their interest in the subjects, what's going on in their personal lives, and probably which professor they had. Second quarter is more intense than first quarter, and there was a lot to learn in a short period of time, but for me, it wasn't terrible. I actually found fourth quarter more difficult, because I was starting to run out of steam by then.

    I know it's tempting to try to figure out how you're going to manage for the entire program, but my suggestion would be to take things one step at a time. Part of being successful in second quarter is determining what works for you during first quarter, then kicking that into high gear and prioritizing your routine.

    Each of the 6 credit courses has a lecture and clinical component, so it can be a challenge to manage your time, but it's only 12 weeks. You can do anything for 12 weeks, so if it's rough, at least it will be over quickly. Just stay on top of your work, try not to put things off, and ask for help early if you notice that you're struggling.
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    Hey guys,

    In case you haven't checked your email, the spring 2010 book list is here!
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    I am a co-op grad of the program. Top 10% of my class in HS and great GPA in the program, never on academic probation and had to take the HESI 6 times!! The stress, aggravation and depression devastated me..I actually had a job waiting at HUP. There was no real remediation...lots of "self study". I did have one and only one professor who was rooting for me, other than that, I just became a statistic, labeled a "failure", and thrown in the trash. I felt perfectly confident that I could pass NCLEX, but HESI failures brought down my self-esteem to the point that I felt like I could never do it. It is great you are all talking about the policy and now they make it known up front. I had paid over $100,000 taken 170 credits, invested 5 years and if I did not pass on my 6th time, they would just dismiss you from the program...no degree at all! At that time I started to research other nursing programs in case I had to transfer and the deans of the surrounding programs did not agree with the Drexel policy. It seems the general consensus is Drexel's pass rate is inflated by holding perfectly prepared students for sitting for NCLEX. Hate to be a downer, but it is better to know the facts (and facts they never tell you) up front.


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