Drexel University ACE Spring 2010 - page 34
Hello all, I just received a letter from Drexel saying that my application for the ACE program is now complete and Iím waiting for a response. I was wondering if anyone else here is applying for the same program and received an... Read More
- 0Mar 8, '10 by blueyes26I am trying to decide whether or not I should plan on taking the train to school or driving. Does anyone have experience with either? First quarter is the only quarter I am considering taking the train - I have heard that it is best to have a car at school the other quarters due to the need to drive to clinicals. Would it cause an inconvenience during the first quarter if I take the train and don't have my car in the city? If feedback shows that driving would be best, are there parking lots/garages that you would recommend? As the first day of classes approaches I am trying to plan all the last minute logistics. Thanks!!
- 0Mar 9, '10 by hiddencatRNQuote from blueyes26Parking is expensive in Center City, so train is definitely best first quarter. Plus you can study on the train. Second and third quarter, you'll be on campus 2 days a week from 8-4:30 or 8-5:30, so if you're living somewhere you can leave your car home 2 days a week I recommend that too. Then you can use the car for the 3 days a week you have clinicals.I am trying to decide whether or not I should plan on taking the train to school or driving. Does anyone have experience with either? First quarter is the only quarter I am considering taking the train - I have heard that it is best to have a car at school the other quarters due to the need to drive to clinicals. Would it cause an inconvenience during the first quarter if I take the train and don't have my car in the city? If feedback shows that driving would be best, are there parking lots/garages that you would recommend? As the first day of classes approaches I am trying to plan all the last minute logistics. Thanks!!
If you're planning to live in Center City near campus, I would recommend leaving it home during the first quarter. I have *KNOCK ON WOOD* been able to work out carpooling to my clinicals so far or be able to get there via public transportation so far.
- 1Mar 9, '10 by OpheliaKHi,
I just wanted to respond to the article that was posted about the high percentage of Drexel Nursing Students who pass the NCLEX. While this is all well and good, what they don't tell you is how many people pass the final HESI in order to graduate to get the opportunity to take the NCLEX. I myself recently graduated in 2009 from the ACE program. I'm sure you know that in order to graduate you must get a certain percentage on the final HESI. I began the program in March of 2008 and unfortunately failed a course during second quarter. I had to wait three months to rejoin the next cohort and repeat the course and then was able to continue the program. When the final HESI came around I did not pass the first two attempts and was required to sign up for (and pay another 2600 dollars) for a 3 credit course and had two more attempts. Luckily on the fourth attempt, I attained above the required score. If you don't already know what happens if you don't get the required score after the fourth attempt, I'll tell you. You are required to retake the senior seminar class where you will spend 11 weeks testing out on your skills (injections, catheters, assessment, etc) and have two more HESI attempts. If you don't pass those attempts, I'm still not clear to this day what happens. I want to make you guys aware of this because you won't hear it from school, more likely you will hear about it during second quarter through your fellow student grapevine. I consider myself an intelligent person and excelled in my previous degree, but I have to say, the ACE program was by no means easy. Throughout my time involved with this program, I hated life, and so did most of the people who were there with me. A good amount of people can get through this program in one year and pass the final HESI the first or second time, but many don't. For many, a one year program turns into an 18 or 24 month program, or longer I don't want to scare you, that is not my intention. I just want to share my experience and observations as a graduate. So here comes the advice. First quarter is a breeze compared to the rest. Don't let it fool you. Also, take HESI SERIOUSLY!!! You cannot expect to get good grades and pass based on memorization alone. You have to learn how to prioritize and understand. I strongly recommend purchasing the book, NCLEX-RN Reviews and Rationales by Mary Ann Hogan. It's a big white and red book. I used that book to study for the final HESI before my last attempt and it is what helped me pass, and it is such a great resource it will only help you reinforce what you learn throughout the program. I found that the HESI study guide wasn't very comprehensive but the CD that comes with the HESI book is excellent as it provides you with hundreds of practice questions, and I recommend buying it for that. The last thing I recommend is supporting each other as much as you can. The old adage that "nurses eat their young" still exists and you will encounter it at some point as you go through the program. Don't let this discourage you. You'll meet more wonderful nurses than not. Do your best, you can do it!! I wish you all the best and good luck!!!!
- 0Mar 9, '10 by brooklynneOpheliak, congratulations on completing the program and thanks for all the advice. I do hear a lot that the 2nd quarter is so much harder than the first one. Is it the clinicals or the classroom courses that is difficult? Also, how soon do we start taking the Hesi exams? Finally, do we get practice exams?
Thanks again for the words of wisdom. Hopefully, we can take in what you've said and be better prepared. So, we hope.
- 0Mar 10, '10 by hiddencatRNQuote from OpheliaKBefore our cohort started, we were sent a letter we had to sign and return detailing how many attempts we have for the HESI and what happens if we do not pass. I don't recall exactly what it said but it did talk about the review course and then retaking the senior and that if you fail after all attempts you get a degree in Health Studies (or something like that). I'm wondering if we were the first class that had to sign that document.I want to make you guys aware of this because you won't hear it from school, more likely you will hear about it during second quarter through your fellow student grapevine.
We took our first HESI in the first quarter with Principles and it was 5% of our grade with no minimum. We're taking one each with our clinical classes this quarter, I think they're all 15% of our grades with no minimum passing rate on the HESI. There are review sessions held at various times in the CLRC, but sometimes it's hard to get there schedule-wise. I do like the HESI book, haven't looked at the questions, but use the book for review in my regular tests. I have the Saunders and the Comprehensive R&R, but those are large books and I like that the HESI boils things down in to a shorter format of the absolute essentials. I have classmates who really like the Comprehensive R&R though.
I definitely agree about 1st quarter being easy and to not get complacent- there were moments when it did feel like a tough quarter, but compared to q2, it was a breeze! Really use that time to solidify your study skills, get used to the NCLEX format of questions, and organize yourself.
I'm finishing q2 now and don't want to jinx it, but as long as nothing horrible happens with my finals I will be moving on to q3. I know some students who have decelerated, some who have decided to leave, some who have failed out or who will likely be this quarter. It's definitely not an easy program or a program for everyone, but I have been enjoying it overall. I was pretty wiped out during midterms and anticipate hating my life during finals week, heh, but I'm meeting great people, learning a lot, and dealing with stress and the things that are frustrating well.