Roll Call 4580 Leadership, Starting 3/25/13 - page 22

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    For those of you that did not have a nurse manager to interview, what have you done? I don't know where to even begin finding someone to interview. I don't really know many people in my area and I can't get a nurse manager on the phone....
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    I started 4580 leadership 3 weeks ago and our assignment this weeks is about staffing and calculation. It is very confusing...it talks about variable FTE calculation,productivity percent, annual care hours, average dailly census.....Anyonw have taken it before and would like to share your thoughts/answers??

    Thank you! It would be greatly appreciated!!
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    Quote from maya88
    I started 4580 leadership 3 weeks ago and our assignment this weeks is about staffing and calculation. It is very confusing...it talks about variable FTE calculation,productivity percent, annual care hours, average dailly census.....Anyonw have taken it before and would like to share your thoughts/answers??

    Thank you! It would be greatly appreciated!!
    My thoughts are that you need to read both tables in the book very carefully along with both pages to see how they arrived at the answers in the book. Break it down step by step. Look at each individual step before you move on to the next. Giving answers constitutes academic dishonesty. The thread for the last leadership class was removed because people were posting too much information and making the assignment a group project. Good luck. You can do this.
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    Quote from maya88
    I started 4580 leadership 3 weeks ago and our assignment this weeks is about staffing and calculation. It is very confusing...it talks about variable FTE calculation,productivity percent, annual care hours, average dailly census.....Anyonw have taken it before and would like to share your thoughts/answers??

    Thank you! It would be greatly appreciated!!
    I personally feel the textbook doesn't provide adequate information for those who had no FTE knowledge previously. I struggled at the beginning. I googled "nursing FTE calculation", and it helped me understand the concepts much better. Hope this helps you as well.
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    For those struggling with the FTE assignment, here is an article that may help explain FTE's, productive FTEs, nonproductive FTEs, and how to determine staffing needs MUCH better than our book does. The chapter starts on pg 215.

    Essentials of Nursing Leadership and Management - Patricia Kelly - Google Books
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    Quote from emergencyken
    For those struggling with the FTE assignment, here is an article that may help explain FTE's, productive FTEs, nonproductive FTEs, and how to determine staffing needs MUCH better than our book does. The chapter starts on pg 215.

    Essentials of Nursing Leadership and Management - Patricia Kelly - Google Books
    Thanks for that link.

    FYI: Also, some TA's are TELLING students to confer with other students. I don't even think the TA's know how to discern this stuff because when they are asked they tell us to ask other students. People are giving guidance on Facebook on the official Ohio University RN to BSN group site. So, I don't think it is considered academic dishonesty. They are asking us to write this as a paper. Not answer it as a quiz.
    I am just happy this is my last class with OU.
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    Quote from EmJeanRN

    Thanks for that link.

    FYI: Also, some TA's are TELLING students to confer with other students. I don't even think the TA's know how to discern this stuff because when they are asked they tell us to ask other students. People are giving guidance on Facebook on the official Ohio University RN to BSN group site. So, I don't think it is considered academic dishonesty. They are asking us to write this as a paper. Not answer it as a quiz.
    I am just happy this is my last class with OU.
    I wasn't trying to be a snot mentioning academic dishonesty. Look up what qualifies on the OU website and collaboration on an individual project stands out. I was hoping to save people who have worked very hard thus far from getting in trouble. Again, I don't really care what is posted since I'm done with this class but I watched the last Leadership thread crumble quickly and totally disappear for this exact reason. Whether people choose to put answers on Facebook with their REAL name is up to them. TAs telling students to ask other students for help on a graded project is just strange.
    You only have a little over a week to go then you are outta here! Hang in there.
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    Yes...I observed the other thread in 'real time' crumble and be completely deleted. I think that allnurses.com were protecting their website.

    I do not post on Facebook OU group. I think it is a risky endeavor for people to do so on many levels. Social networks can come back to haunt people in more ways than one.
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    I'm confused because I can't find in the book how to calculate the paid hours per FTE for the variable equation. To the left of the box it has the description for calculating the staffing pattern and the first step is "Determine the number of paid hours per FTE". Am I completely missing the part where it explains how to do that?

    ETA: After googling I think that number in the equation box might be a constant... So I guess I'll just use that number.
    I've found how to find the FTEs using the equation, but I am still unable to figure out staffing patterns using the provided FTEs. The equations in the book show you how much staff you need based on care hours or average daily census but this is not mean you will be able to afford it with the provided FTEs. Could someone please explain how the provided FTEs work into the equation?


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