Ohio University RN-to-BSN Program - page 3
Since it seems that there's quite a bit of interest, I'm attempting to start a new thread devoted exclusively to the OU on-line RN-BSN program that will hopefully build on the comments on assorted... Read More
7Mar 4, '11 by UGADawgsI am trying to decide between Ohio University and Penn State for my online RN-BSN program.
I just found this document outling the OU course schedule and which courses you'd take when based on program start date and whether you attend full or part time:
Apparently, they make you take the first course and the last course by themselves, so you can't take two nursing classes at once during your first and last 5-week session (but you could take other core classes during that time).
I looked at their general education requirements and compared them againsy my transcript and it looks like I have everything except 3 core courses (the junior level writing class, the nutrition course, and child psychology). I don't think the core classes are offered in 5-week sessions like the nursing classes are, so I would either need to take those concurrently and just finish them on the regular quarter schedule or find another school that teaches ones that will transfer. At any rate, assuming that I was able to squeeze in those 3 core classes over the course of the year that the nursing program runs, my schedule would look like this if I began with the session that starts July 25th:
07/25/2011: Nursing 300
09/05/2011: Nursing 445, Nursing 414
10/17/2011: Nursing 310, Nursing 325
01/02/2012: Nursing 335, Nursing 330
02/13/2012: Nursing 410, Nursing 405
03/26/2012: Nursing 341, Nursing 416
05/17/2012: Nursing 455
So, starting this July and attending full time, assuming I also got the 3 core classes done in this time, I would finish at the end of June 2012. About 11 months total. Really doesn't save much time vs. a traditional semester based program. If I attended a semester-based program that you could finish in 3 semesters (core classes inclusive) I'd start in late August-early September and finish in August at the end of summer semester the next year. So, the OU program doesn't even save 2 months. As far as the pace goes, there probably isn't much difference between taking 2 courses at a time that last 5 weeks and taking 4-5 courses at a time that last 15 weeks. Probably works out to be about the same workload.
Cost of the program: The 12 nursing courses account for 50 credit hours at 155 dollars per credit hour: 155 x 50 = 7750. Then there are those 3 core classes at 3 credits each for 9 additional hours. I wonder if the 155 per credit hour is the price for their regular quarter based distance learning classes or if it is a special price for the nursing courses. If it's 155 then that comes to 155 x 9 = 1395.
So, yeah $9145 (7750+1395) minimum for tuition. Assuming books, course materials, and miscellaneous fees will add another 1000 to this, it comes to about $10145.00 for the total cost of the program.
I did a similar annalysis for Penn State, a traditional 15-week semester-based program, and figured that I would need to take 5 clases in the fall, 5 classes in the Spring, and 2 classes in the Summer to finish, and that includes the core classes I would need fitting nicely into that plan without having to take them separately on a different schedule to try to make it match up with the nursing class timeline. The total cost of that program would be somewhere around $17500.00
So, when everything is said and done with, the Ohio University program would save me $7355.00 and 1.5 months, assuming I find and finish the 3 core classes I need in time.
At this point, it's going to come down to intangibles and student reviews of the programs. What is the mode of evaluation? Are the classes more exam oriented or paper-writing oriented? Are the classes designed with the assumption that the people taking them are full time working RNs and are they accordingly flexible? What are the instructors like? How smooth is the communication with the home office? Things like that that you can't get from reading a brochure are what will ultimately help me make my decision.
1Mar 4, '11 by chucksterQuote from UGADawgsOne of the few clear answers I got from my phone conversation with the nursing advisor at OU was about the Child Psych requirement: I was told that OU will accept Developmental Psych for this.I looked at their general education requirements and compared them againsy my transcript and it looks like I have everything except 3 core courses (the junior level writing class, the nutrition course, and child psychology). . .
As far as cost is concerned, the top 2 schools are OU and UT-A. As I indicated in an earlier post, I am going to apply to both programs and the selection of which to attend will come down to the evaluation. My analysis leads me to believe that in the course of getting 3 college degrees, I've managed to cover all the OU pre-reqs and may only need the 12 nursing classes. If true, OU comes in at a total tuition cost of $7,750.
It's not quite the same for UT-A. There's at least one non-nursing course that I (and pretty much everyone not from Texas) will need: Texas State Govt. UT-A also requires 2 semesters of American History and I only have one, so that adds another course. I may or may not have to take Federal Government - it's possible that my Poli Sci course in American Constitutional Law may work to satisfy this requirement or maybe my Business Law class (or possibly the combination of the 2). Assuming I need all 3 however puts the total for UT-A at $7,800 ($6,450 for the nursing classes and $1,350 for the other 3). So cost-wise, it's a wash but time-wise, OU gets the nod. All of this is speculation until the official evaluation is done though.
Quote from UGADawgsI think that's true - which makes the UT-A program longer than OU - at least for me.I don't think the core classes are offered in 5-week sessions like the nursing classes are ...
Quote from UGADawgsAgree - but I can't seem to get that information directly from either school. Hopefully, this thread might get some existing OU students to give us some feedback.At this point, it's going to come down to intangibles and student reviews of the programs. What is the mode of evaluation? Are the classes more exam oriented or paper-writing oriented? Are the classes designed with the assumption that the people taking them are full time working RNs and are they accordingly flexible? What are the instructors like? How smooth is the communication with the home office? Things like that that you can't get from reading a brochure are what will ultimately help me make my decision.
On a completely unrelated note UGADawgs - Are you by any chance a Georgia alum (I yield to no man in my grasp of the obvious)?
0Mar 4, '11 by UGADawgsQuote from chucksterGeorgia attendee is more like it. I went to UGA for 3 years but didn't graduate. I came back to my hometown to work for a company a friend of my dad's started for several years, but when my job got shipped overseas, I decided to go back to nursing school and get my ASN from the local community college. So, whatever BSN program I end up going with will be my first bachelors degree, but a good chunk of the credits that apply to it will be transfered from the University of Georgia, and I will always bleed Red and Black! I wish UGA had a nursing school so I could get my BSN from there, but they don't.On a completely unrelated note UGADawgs - Are you by any chance a Georgia alum (I yield to no man in my grasp of the obvious)?
1Mar 5, '11 by WildcatFanRNre: UGADawg..yeah SEC
I've added up the approximate costs of all the programs I've researched.
Spalding University, approx cost $17,625 before fees and books
McKendree University, approx cost $14,820 before fees and books
Chamberlain, approx cost $19,550 before fees and books
Ohio University, approx cost $9610 before fees and books
The top two are in my state and are blended in class/online programs. Of course the costs are contingent on all the gen ed classes I have C's or better in transferring in. Ohio University hands down is the winner in cost....BUT I might not be able to use the state grants I'm eligible for there. Spalding I've applied to their scholarships so the cost might not be as much. Same with McKendree. So many choices....such hard decisions.
0Mar 6, '11 by LexiRN2I like the idea of this thread. I have a few questions that someone may be able to help with... I know that this is technically an Academic Outreach Initiative program, so can you still apply if your job is not one of the partners? I noticed that there is a place on the application for your job's code. Is there any clinical requirement for any of the courses? And does anyone know if you're allowed to take more than 2 nursing courses per quarter? I'd like to do it full time and get it finished and 9 credit hrs per quarter technically isn't full time so I'm wondering if its possible to do more.
2Mar 6, '11 by UGADawgsQuote from LexiLPNYou do not need to be employeed by one of their partners to be able to do the program. I just think their partners get a tuition discount.I like the idea of this thread. I have a few questions that someone may be able to help with... I know that this is technically an Academic Outreach Initiative program, so can you still apply if your job is not one of the partners? I noticed that there is a place on the application for your job's code. Is there any clinical requirement for any of the courses? And does anyone know if you're allowed to take more than 2 nursing courses per quarter? I'd like to do it full time and get it finished and 9 credit hrs per quarter technically isn't full time so I'm wondering if its possible to do more.
As far as 9 quarter hours not being full time...it is when the classes only last 5 weeks! A normal quarter at a university on the quarter system is 10-12 weeks and a semester is 15-16. These OU courses are condensed so each time you complete 2 courses, you do so over a span of 5 weeks. So if you attend full time and take 2 courses per 5 week session, that is the equivalent of taking 4 courses at once over a normal 10 week quarter. Two at a time is fast enough in this program.
Besides, even if they did allow you to take 3 at once, it really wouldn't save you any time because you have to take the first and last nursing courses by themselves. So, instead of going 1-2-2-2-2-1, you'd go 1-3-3-2-1. It would just save you like 6 weeks.
0Mar 7, '11 by agldragonRNthank you guys for all the info. i think i will apply to this school for my rn-bsn provided they accept all my transfer credits. i am missing intro to chemistry and nutrition for the pre-reqs and the 12 nursing classes. i think i will take the chemistry this summer in my community college and the nutrition with ou.
do i have to complete all the pre-reqs first before i am allowed to take the nursing classes? i will also try and see if i can get credit for the first nursing class nrse: 300 transitions in nursing because i took the transition to the registered professional nurse role from excelsior college. well, i shall see. wow i'm excited to go back to school again. :d
eta: okay i found the answer to my question from the stuff i printed off ou website. "students may begin core before completing non-nursing support courses." but now i am not sure if i satisfy this "cross cultural perspectives" requirement.
Last edit by agldragonRN on Mar 7, '11
0Mar 7, '11 by chuckstereta: okay i found the answer to my question from the stuff i printed off ou website. "students may begin core before completing non-nursing support courses." but now i am not sure if i satisfy this "cross cultural perspectives" requirement.
0Mar 9, '11 by agldragonRNQuote from chucksteri did a lot of digging/searching from ou website and found this.i was also worried about "cross cultural perspectives" and spoke with a counselor at ou about the requirement. she said that any course with a primarily non-american, non-european comparative perspective would satisfy it. she went on to suggested that typical courses that ou would accept include comparative religion, non-western philosophy or ethics and cultural or comparative anthropology or sociology.
here's the info regarding "cross cultural perspectives". i think you only need to take one of these classes.
tier ii - cross-cultural perspectives (2cp)
anth 101 - "introduction to cultural anthropology"
chin 113 - "elementary chinese"
fr 111, 112, 211, 212, 213 - "elementary french"
geog 131 - "globalization and the developing world"
hist 132, 133, 323a, 323c - "introduction to non-western history before 1750"
span 111, 112, 113, 211, 212, 213 - "elementary spanish i"
this is even better because it gives all the classes available for "tier ii"
link: http://www.ohio.edu/univcollege/cour...i_fall2008.pdfLast edit by agldragonRN on Mar 9, '11