Moving to Cleveland

zlatamoya · Nov 15, 2007

My disclaimer- I'm a student and have never worked at either. However I have had family have surgery at both institutions. I was personally more impressed with the organization at UH rather than the Clinic. The clinic is GREAT, however they have so so many openings for nursing right now (somewhere b/n 200-300 positions) that I don't think it's as "well-oiled" as it should be. The research/innovation there is incredible, but organization doesn't seem to be the clinic's strength. THat is from a patient/family perspective, couldn't tell you about employee perspective! Hope you like it out here....depending on where you live too, there are a lot of satellite hospitals for both institutions, that may help you avoid the traffic! Best wishes!

cklpn · Nov 16, 2007

i work for cleveland clinic. good hospital. there is the main campus in downtown cleveland and then other hospitals in the burbs if you like smaller hospitals. i dont know much about UH hospitals.

actioncat · Nov 16, 2007

I would agree with the poster who stated UH seemed better organized.

I was much more impressed with UH than CC, from a patient family member perspective.

neko11111 · Nov 23, 2007

I've worked for both places..... they are both good facilities - teaching hospitals.....

Ummmm it seems - to me at least - that UH is more oriented toward the patient and their families.... whereas the clinic is more about learning and research.

The clinic has an easier electronic MAR. It is more user friendly.

CCF - I've worked at the clinic's mothership (downtown) and some of the family health centers, and done clinicals at some it's area hospitals. It's a good company to work for..... lots of learning opportunities, good reputation...... but it also comes with lots of politics, passing of the buck w/ certain managers - too many chiefs, not enough indians mentality... and not very personal when it come to dynamics with most people there.

UH - I've also worked at the downtown location and some smaller hospitals.... they are more personalized when it comes to dealing with families and patients, and even with employee / manager relationships.... It seems that you get more recognition for doing a good job there, it's more like a family atmosphere.... It did seem that the equipment, ie: computor programs, was a little more cumbersome though......

I would honestly recommend both - they are both great companies to work for. Make sure to shadow whatever positions you apply for - during the shift that you would be working - that is truely the only way to see the actual dynamics between the employees and managers there.

This is just my personal opinion..... you can do with it, what you want! I've personally moved on to a private hospital on the west side, and so far - I absolutely love it!! Smaller, but more family like.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SEARCH!! I hope you find the facility that fits you best!! :yelclap:

WSU_Ally_RN, BSN, RN · Nov 25, 2007

My disclaimer- I'm a student and have never worked at either. However I have had family have surgery at both institutions. I was personally more impressed with the organization at UH rather than the Clinic. The clinic is GREAT, however they have so so many openings for nursing right now (somewhere b/n 200-300 positions) that I don't think it's as "well-oiled" as it should be. The research/innovation there is incredible, but organization doesn't seem to be the clinic's strength. THat is from a patient/family perspective, couldn't tell you about employee perspective! Hope you like it out here....depending on where you live too, there are a lot of satellite hospitals for both institutions, that may help you avoid the traffic! Best wishes!

Just wanted to add my two-cents in regarding all the openings at CCF... we are getting ready to open an additional 400some beds at the hospital, and need to have the RN's to staff them.... True, that there is a lot of turnover with staff, but I think that is the same with any huge teaching hospital.

suanna · Nov 25, 2007

Don't know if this helps as I am only going by gossip, but I work for an Akron hospital 50 or so miles to the south of Cleveland. We get frequent nurses applying for positions who have fled the CCF main campus with horror stories about patient load, nursing rights, doctor attitudes. I have only met one nurse who applied here from UH and they did so for the commute (they lived in Akron). After 3mos they returned to UH. CCF is known to be a "doctors' hospital" where as UH has a reputation of having a strong nursing department. Keep in mind I'm just passing gossip- no first hand experience.

BittyBabyGrower, MSN, RN · Nov 26, 2007

If you like trauma, MetroHealth is the way to go. I have to second the opinion on nurses leaving the clinic....we get them by the boatload and they seldomly go back.

neko11111 · Nov 26, 2007

OH YES!! Can't forget Metro - it's a level 1 trauma center! Only one in the area - although I did hear that Huron, which is CCF, will be switching over to a level 1 in the near future too...

But that's still part of the rumor mill.....

tatarn2b2007 · Nov 26, 2007

I will say something that was told to us in orientation at CCF. Last year, they hired 1000 nurses and 1000 nurses left. 60% cited nurse-nurse hostility as the reason why. This was told to us in a class on preventing nurse-nurse hostility by the instructor.

BittyBabyGrower, MSN, RN · Nov 27, 2007

I doubt Huron will be a Level one....they don't have all the components for it.

As for CCF....the ones we got didn't say anything about people being nasty, they didn't like the way they were treated by docs and the ratios were bad. Usually, if you have a mass exit like that, it isn't something like nurses picking on one another, it goes deeper than that.

inspir8tion · Jan 31, 2008

Thanks for all the replies! I really appreciate it :specs: