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No. 30
from Fiona59
Old Oct 08, 2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by colavadel View Post
The "method" of delivery can have a lot to DO with the outcome of delivery- for both mother and baby. Risks of surgery shouldn't be taken so lightly.


This woman has had three children- first was vaginal, second was c/s, and third was vaginal (VBAC). Now she should consent to another c/s, just because the hospital has decided that they would now prefer that? When just two years ago they "let" her VBAC?

Preaching to the choir. I was diagnosed with PTSD after a vaginal delivery. The hospital that performed the delivery was under review because they were doing too many sections for what was percieved to be the doctors convenience. I had the misfortune to go into labour on Wednesday night and deliver Friday morning. Friday being the day that "too" may sections were performed. I wound up needing corrective surgery to repair the damage done during that delivery. Diagnosed first with PPD and then finally PTSD. It took me years to even consider another pregnancy, then I was deemed to be high risk and told where I could deliver and what my options would be if plan A failed.

If they had done the damned section in the first place, I would have been spared a psychiatric stay, a couple of gynie procedures to repair the damage caused by high forceps and my last child would have been born sooner.

So don't tell me that I take the risks of surgery lightly.
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No. 31
from LPN_2005
Old Oct 08, 2009, 12:53 PM

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I thought this woman didn't give birth yet. Isn't she still pregnant? Some posts is stating that she was forced to have a c-section therefore it is rape. But the woman have the choice to go to a different facility that will grant her wish of having a vaginal delivery. She isn't forced to give birth at that facility.

For example: when I wasn't happy with my ob-gyn because she was telling me I needed a procedure I didn't think I needed, I went to a different facility-different md for a second opinion, and was satisfied- stree free. I wasn't going to go into legal matters to force this md to agree with my opinion on what I should or should not have done to my body.

This woman have to option to choose whatever facility she wants to give birth-she is not "forced" to do anything.
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No. 32
Old Oct 08, 2009, 03:34 PM

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I can't remember the post now but someone mentioned our right to refuse treatment, well if she is court ordered to have the C Section can she still refuse? I am thinking if she is court ordered they will FORCE the C Section.

I was talking about this with a different group of people and it seemed like everyone was so quick to bash this woman. I got the feeling of a C Section is no big deal blah blah blah.

It amazes me that so many people are up in arms about their jobs FORCING them to get a H1N1 Flu Vaccine or lose their jobs, but it's not a big deal to force someone to have a C Section. I can't get my head around that. Some of the people I talked to that dogged this woman for this were the same people that felt their rights were violated to be forced into a shot that can have the potential to have severe adverse effect.

It seems like in today's society we are quick to talk down about someone's rights being violated until it's our own rights being stepped on.


This woman has had a successful VBAC their is no reason she should not be allowed to have another one. That said, if the hospital is not willing to accommodate she should make preparation to deliver somewhere that will. Although as mentioned, any hospital that is delivering babies should be equipped to handle emergency c sections because they are a part of having babies in this day and age.

To try and get a court order to force this woman to have surgery for their convenience is absurd and despicable IMO
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No. 33
from 5in9years
Old Oct 08, 2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Apgar10 View Post
No, what inspires the question?
Your response to my post. Perhaps I misread it, but it seemed you were making fun of the idea of self-determination in healthcare.

Then again, I have the flu so I could be completely blittered.
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No. 34
from 5in9years
Old Oct 08, 2009, 04:04 PM

Default Re: Woman Calls C-Section "Rape"
Originally Posted by LPN_2005 View Post
I thought this woman didn't give birth yet. Isn't she still pregnant? Some posts is stating that she was forced to have a c-section therefore it is rape. But the woman have the choice to go to a different facility that will grant her wish of having a vaginal delivery. She isn't forced to give birth at that facility.

For example: when I wasn't happy with my ob-gyn because she was telling me I needed a procedure I didn't think I needed, I went to a different facility-different md for a second opinion, and was satisfied- stree free. I wasn't going to go into legal matters to force this md to agree with my opinion on what I should or should not have done to my body.

This woman have to option to choose whatever facility she wants to give birth-she is not "forced" to do anything.
That choice may not be much more than theoretical. There is only one hospital within 100 miles of my home with a L&D unit. That limits choices for all the women in the county.
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No. 35
from Apgar10
Old Oct 08, 2009, 04:14 PM

Default Re: Woman Calls C-Section "Rape"
Originally Posted by 5in9years View Post
Your response to my post. Perhaps I misread it, but it seemed you were making fun of the idea of self-determination in healthcare.

Then again, I have the flu so I could be completely blittered.
I guess I could be poking fun at the tone of your comment, not the idea, of self-determination, because women don't get classes in self-determination during pregnancy, they get pamphlets, books, and classes on how to ask their doctors what is best for them. They get tours of hospitals that tell them how it's going to work for them while they're there. In all the planned hospital births I've attended, I've only had one doctor provide a semblance of self-determination to the patient and that was after the nurse told her she'd be in bed for the duration of her pitocin induction, could have clear fluids only, and needed constant monitoring. The doctor interrupted her to say the patient was an adult in the hospital, not jail, and could do whatever she liked.
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No. 36
Old Oct 08, 2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiona59 View Post
Isn't the objective of delivery to have a healthy mother and child?


She needs to find another hospital. Then if she needs a section, she should be grateful that they were able to do it.

Too many women are today placing too much emphasis on the method rather than the outcome of delivery.
Well believe it or not some women actually don't want a medical birth....they want a birth like one is suppose to be. Our society treats L&D like a problem.....it's not fair to criticize mothers that are picking up on this.
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No. 37
from wooh
Old Oct 08, 2009, 04:46 PM

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Patients have the right to self-determination. But a doctor/hospital/hospital staff shouldn't be required to go against their policies to do it. If a patient is well enough to be "picky" about what they want, then they need to go where they can get it. If the next hospital that can do it is far away, then they have the choice, find a way to get there or have the treatment you can get close by.
Patients have the right to say no. I should have the right to say no I won't accept the liability if you won't accept my judgement.
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No. 38
Old Oct 08, 2009, 05:25 PM

Default Re: Woman Calls C-Section "Rape"
Originally Posted by wooh View Post
Patients have the right to self-determination. But a doctor/hospital/hospital staff shouldn't be required to go against their policies to do it. If a patient is well enough to be "picky" about what they want, then they need to go where they can get it. If the next hospital that can do it is far away, then they have the choice, find a way to get there or have the treatment you can get close by.
Patients have the right to say no. I should have the right to say no I won't accept the liability if you won't accept my judgement.

So what happens to her rights if they get a court order to force her into a C Section?
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No. 39
from LPN_2005
Old Oct 08, 2009, 05:33 PM
Updated Oct 08, 2009 at 06:03 PM by LPN_2005

Default Re: Woman Calls C-Section "Rape"
Does this woman live in the same county as you?

Again, this woman have the choice to go to the nearest facility that is able to assist her in safely giving a vaginal birth, even if she have to get a motel or hotel closer to her due date, so she can have the best care possible for her and her baby. I wouldn't want to go to a hospital that is hesitant in assisting me giving birth. I would be very, very concerned for my life and my newborn's life.



Originally Posted by 5in9years View Post
That choice may not be much more than theoretical. There is only one hospital within 100 miles of my home with a L&D unit. That limits choices for all the women in the county.
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