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No. 30
from kastas
Old Aug 26, 2005, 07:55 PM

I'm bumping this thread up b/c it has peaked my interest. Sorry, I guess I missed it when it was being discussed.

Of those out there whom take it upon themselves to inform the pt of the pros/cons of pit/cytotec how exactly do you word it? I don't think saying, "hey this is not FDA approved and may cause uterine rupture" will get you far. How do you go about it?
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No. 31
from RNnL&D
Old Aug 26, 2005, 09:26 PM

I simply say this is the reason for using Cytotec during pregnancy......., these are the possible adverse affects......., that is why we.........

Fill in the blanks.
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No. 32
Old Aug 26, 2005, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by PegRNBSN
Our hospital is one of the last in our city to hold out on using cytotec. The scoop on cytotec is that when it was first tried and studied high doses were used. It came out being much more effective than cervidil and much less expensive. However this is also where you saw the adverse outcomes due to hyperstim.
When cytotec was then used in smaller doses the adverse outcomes went way down but so did effectiveness. It is no more effective than cervidil which is much easier to control (you take it out) than cytotec. All that remains is cost effectiveness (a few dollars for cytotec vs. $150 for cervidil).
However, if I were a patient or MD I would certainly think it was worth the money to use a safer drug that is specifically authorized for cervical ripening.

LOL... I worked in billing for years before becoming a nurse... At our hospital, they charge patients about $700-$800 for Cervidil.
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No. 33
from mom2dacl
Old Aug 29, 2005, 05:19 PM

We currently only have one doc using it at our place for live births. others use it for IUFD's, but will absolutly not use it for cervical ripening for induction. I overheard one of the oldest docs in town telling a resident (today, in fact) how unpredictable it is, and how it can't be stopped efficiently if things go south.

Personally, I am terrified of the stuff. I hope that I don't end up in a cytotec induction with this doc, cause I might have to pull the "I am not comfortable with this" routine. This doc delivers at 2 hospitals, and often misses delivery's, runs out before writing orders, and has a very bad rep with the nurses.

So far, so good, however!
K
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No. 34
from mom2dacl
Old Aug 29, 2005, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by RNnL&D
Ours too. Cytotec is one to two hours after placement. Cervidil is continuous.
Interesting. our protocol is 1 hour bedrest and 1 hour monitoring, then Q4hours or per nurse descretion for cervidil, but continuous with cytotec. (unless IUFD)
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No. 35
from msnicci
Old Oct 14, 2007, 02:33 PM

Default Re: Are they still using Cytotec?
At whose cost is Cytotec more cost effective. You should see the Bills after my sisters rupture! or the cost of her total life as result of the brain injurty she suffered from hypoxia. So Cost effective to whom is my question!!??
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No. 36
from rph3664
Old Oct 14, 2007, 03:48 PM
Updated Oct 14, 2007 at 03:52 PM by rph3664

Default Re: Are they still using Cytotec?
The hospital where I work most certainly uses Cytotec, at 25 or 50mcg vaginally for labor induction at term, 200mcg vaginally for 2nd or 3rd trimester fetal demise, and 800mcg rectally for postpartum hemorrhage. Women requiring preterm induction before the 36th or 37th week are sent to another facility with a Level III NICU.

We don't use it as often as we use Prostin, 2.5mg of this in KY jelly, compounded by us in the pharmacy and kept frozen until use. They sometimes use the suppositories for fetal demise but the 200mcg Cytotec is much more common, mainly because it's MUCH less expensive.

Cervidil is not used at our facility because it has to be placed by the physician and Cytotec or Prostin can be placed by the nurse. My SIL had two Cervidil inductions in another city and had no problems related to this either time.

Terbutaline is ordered for PRN use. Not being a nurse, let alone working in L&D, I'm not sure how often it's used but we really don't send a lot up there.

Edit: Whenever we hire a new technician, they will often ask why the Cytotec bottle has a drawing of a pregnant woman with a no parking sign on it, and we're sending this to L&D. We explain why.
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No. 37
from msnicci
Old Oct 14, 2007, 03:54 PM

Default Re: Are they still using Cytotec?
Originally Posted by rph3664 View Post
The hospital where I work most certainly uses Cytotec, at 25 or 50mcg vaginally for labor induction at term, 200mcg vaginally for 2nd or 3rd trimester fetal demise, and 800mcg rectally for postpartum hemorrhage. Women requiring preterm induction before the 36th or 37th week are sent to another facility with a Level III NICU.

We don't use it as often as we use Prostin, 2.5mg of this in KY jelly, compounded by us in the pharmacy and kept frozen until use. They sometimes use the suppositories for fetal demise but the 200mcg Cytotec is much more common, mainly because it's MUCH less expensive.

Cervidil is not used at our facility because it has to be placed by the physician and Cytotec or Prostin can be placed by the nurse. My SIL had two Cervidil inductions in another city and had no problems related to this either time.

Terbutaline is ordered for PRN use. Not being a nurse, let alone working in L&D, I'm not sure how often it's used but we really don't send a lot up there.

Edit: Whenever we hire a new technician, they will often ask why the Cytotec bottle has a drawing of a pregnant woman with a no parking sign on it, and we're sending this to L&D. We explain why.
and what is the response?
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No. 38
from rph3664
Old Oct 14, 2007, 04:17 PM

Default Re: Are they still using Cytotec?
Originally Posted by msnicci View Post
and what is the response?
It must work, or we wouldn't use it. I'm a pharmacist, not a nurse, but I come here because it's the only huge message board for medical professionals I can find.

I have no children, but the only induction method I have really heard anyone complain about is Pitocin. One woman said, "A man must have invented that."

Sorry to hear about your sister.
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No. 39
from msnicci
Old Oct 14, 2007, 08:06 PM

Default Re: Are they still using Cytotec?
LOL , Thanks Your Joke was funny! I am nursing student with strong veiws on cytotec. pherhaps because a cytotec "mishap" greatly affected the life of someone i love very much. I am not very objective in this matter.
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