The Know-It-All nurse - page 5

Have any of you ever worked with a nurse who THINKS she knows it all but is truly very unskilled in her specialty? These are scary people!! Let's compare :crying2: :imbar :rotfl: notes!... Read More

  1. by   widow2RN
    Quote from lindymarie
    teemarie,

    I thinks it's a shame when anyone thinks they know it all, whether it's a doctor, R.N., L.P.N. or an aide. I am an L.P.N. who let her license expire. I worked as an aide before I became an L.P.N., and am working as an aide again. I have seen the issue from both sides of the proverbal coin. Due to the many duties placed on nurses aides in most instances spend more time with the client than the nurse. While they should certainly not presume to be nurses, aides can be and are a valuable source of information to the nursing staff. It is not necessarily that an aide thinks she is a nurse. In many instances an aide gets sick of being treated like she hasn't got a brain. She merely wants her observations of a clients condition noted. There have been numerous occasions when I have noticed subtle changes in a clients condition and reported these changes to a nurse, only to have them dismissed.It is very degrading. We are supposed to work together as a team. Nobody knows everything. How nice it would be if that were true.

    Thank you,

    Linda
    I'm in an RN nursing program, and have made it to 2nd semester. Working with the aides in the nursing home in first semester was all it took for me to tell you that as far as I'm concerned... the aides have my respect! They are some of the nicest to us students and are always the one you could find to help out with a resident. They know what they are doing, and know what they are talking about, and I think it's a same that the title/pay puts them into a classified category as any less than those of us who had to do the care plans. We all work together for the patient's good...
  2. by   DelightRN
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Just know, not all American citizens think this way, PUHLEEZE.
    Ditto that. I've often thought about emigrating to Canada, actually.

    And also know that know it all nurses are not specific to OB. We have our share in peds. :uhoh21:
  3. by   NotReady4PrimeTime
    Quote from fergus51
    I just read about that Jan! It's on CBC's website which is the only link I have to Canadian news down here. Are you at U of A hospital? I looked at Royal Alex when I was a new grad, and was quite impressed. Capital health has some great recruiters, but I couldn't get psyched up for living in Alberta winters.

    One other really interesting new procedure I read about was the docs at Sick kid's in Toronto using unmatched heart transplants in infants. Very interesting stuff.

    ps, we use the Baxter pumps here at my hospital in California and no one seems to think they are museum pieces.
    I do indeed work at the U of A. I was one of the nurses who cared for the only pediatric patient in the world to have undergone an Edmonton Protocol back in September of '03. She's 14 years old now and lives in Nova Scotia. By the time she left our unit she was off insulin completely with normal blood sugars. We all really like Dr. Shapiro. He's very easy to get along with and appreciates nurses more than many surgeons I've been involved with.

    We also have done several ABO incompatible heart transplants on infants. In fact we've done 15 pediatric heart transplants in the last 13 months, 2 of them just in the last week and a half, and had one who was on his way to the OR Friday night but the donor deteriorated before they could do the surgery. All 15 that we've done since January of '04 are doing really well.

    I traded Manitoba winters for Alberta ones and really prefer Alberta! It gets cold, but it usually doesn't stay cold. This winter has been one of the mildest on record. Summers are nice, not too hot or wet. And our standard of living is so much better here. Too bad you couldn't just wear a sweater...
  4. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from fergus51
    don't bother jan. if there's one thing i've learned it's that you can't convince people that canadians might know more about canada than an american who knows someone who has been there before. i see the same thing the other way around too (canadians who think they are experts on the us because they know an american). you can't have rational discussions on the matter with such people.

    well, this thread is about the know-it-all nurse, isn't it?:wink2:
  5. by   HarfdMedlegal
    Quote from fergus51
    I actually see it more with the old battlehorses. We have a couple nurses who probably haven't done any updating in their knowledge since they finished nursing school in the 1920s.
    Hey! I take exception to the word, battlehorse! Old, I admit to! LOL It's been a long time since I posted to this board but this thread, in my email, caught my interest. I'm one of those old battlehorses of 30 years duration. Contrary to what seems to be the general impression, we old ones do keep up our training & Cont. Ed too. We may not move as fast as you younger ones, but our minds are just as quick, perhaps more so because we do have a vast amount of experience to fall back on. At the age of + 45, I went back to school to take paralegal studies & then went on to forensics. Many of us old ones are the ones who are now auditing/reviewing the medical records & nurses' notes of the younger, more up to date, nurses. Many times, we are appalled at the poor nursing care & sloppy documentation we see.
    As to the person who stated they saw another nurse do something wrong & then didn't do anything about it but stand by & watch a co-worker get fired, Hmmmm. I'd suggest that nurse get herself a book on The Nurse and the Law, and learn about her own potential liability in that kind of situation.

    Those who have been in the trenches long enough are the ones with enough experience to look back. So don't be so quick to judge others......look to your own self first. Of course, I say all this with a smile!
  6. by   fergus51
    Harfdmedlegal, you aren't the type I would call a battlehorse That title I use exclusively for the type I described (nurses who refuse to keep up to date as some sort of merrit badge). You would be worshipped as an experienced nurse! Big difference!

    Jan, winter lasts too long for a sweater! Did you know that Edmonton gets more sun than any major city in Canada? Problem is, it can be sunny and -30! My dog would wither up and die. The best thing about California is getting a sunburn and having your air con on in February!
  7. by   foxfire65
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    We have one right now that sounds like the Policy and Procedure handbook. "You can't do this because (fill in applying rule here)." I swear she studies that thing in her spare time.

    Which DEFINATELY wouldn't be a bad thing if she PRACTICED what she preached, which she doesn't always do, on very vital things.

    Thank God she's PRN. I would need Xanax to get through a whole shift with her.
    That is funny Marie, lol hang in there!
  8. by   BETSRN
    Quote from ruby vee
    well, this thread is about the know-it-all nurse, isn't it?:wink2:
    i second that question..........what do pumps and canada have to do with the original thread "the know-it-all nurse?"
  9. by   HOLLYBERRY
    Quote from BETSRN
    Have any of you ever worked with a nurse who THINKS she knows it all but is truly very unskilled in her specialty? These are scary people!! Let's compare :imbar notes!
    Isn't it strange that they all seem to climb the ladder very fast? :angryfire
  10. by   snowfreeze
    Many of these nurses should have gone into sales instead of nursing.
  11. by   Diahni
    Wow, it takes a lot of arrogance to think you know it all when you're fresh from school - my sister, who has been a nurse much longer than me, told me you don't learn anything until you're working, and is that ever true.
    Diahni
  12. by   fergus51
    Quote from BETSRN
    I second that question..........what do pumps and Canada have to do with the original thread "the know-it-all nurse?"
    I think it was because the know it all nurse that one poster was talking about was Canadian, so it is only natural that would lead to the trashing of the whole Canadian healthcare system
  13. by   DidiRN
    I LOVE Canada!!! Best state in the union!!! :lol_hitti


    Quote from fergus51
    I think it was because the know it all nurse that one poster was talking about was Canadian, so it is only natural that would lead to the trashing of the whole Canadian healthcare system

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