The Circumcision Discussion - page 88

I'm tired of people who think that it is ok. It shouldn't be your personal decision...it isn't your penis.
End of story.

Aren't you a bit bold?
It's my son. It's my decision.

Until it's termed 'illegal'... which I highly doubt it ever will be... it's no one else's business but mine and my family's.

You can't stand hearing that little boys aren't traumatized by this, as you would love to believe.

My son is a perfectly happy little 'Circ'd' boy. His brother will be too.

Would the same argument be made in defense of a family that wanted to make a pinprick in their baby girl's labia? Why is that not allowed? She won't remember it. It's not disfiguring. Just a little pinprick. Not allowed. Why?

What is the difference? Can anyone answer that question?

Many women in this country - yes, right in the USA - were circumcised or otherwise had their genitalia altered by doctors. Along came some more research that decided, well, perhaps, that's not the cause of all these ills nor the cure for them. When will we give boys the same due?
http://www.womenshealth.gov/faq/fema...al-cutting.cfm

Choosing when in your life to lose your virginity is a personal decision....having someone else make that decision for you is rape....
Choosing when to have your genitals altered is a personal decision...having someone else make that decision for you is...definitely not a personal decision.

Its a debate VizslaMom...both sides are on soapboxes and high horses...we both think we are on the higher moral ground...that's how the game is played.

As an aside...why did you choose to circ your sons VizslaMom?

As far as it becoming illegal....and maybe it will, maybe it won't....it is a possibility... Check out http://www.mgmbill.org/ Just for some additional information.

There are already SEVERAL states whose Medicaid will not pay for it, and there are several more that are in the process of making this change as well....and soon after many HMO's and other insurances (some already don't) will stop payment for this "procedure" and guess what will happen?

But the ridiculous"cleanliness", "being like daddy" and all that other BS...is NO reason to permanently alter and scar a child penis/or any other body part for that matter, because they aren't real reasons.

I think circumcision is a good thing. Sure it's painful but within minutes the baby is quiet again. They cry the first few times they pee but again within minutes the baby is quiet again. I don't think the act of infant circumcision has destroyed anyones mental health. I haven't heard any men say they feel as though they were raped, mamed, abused, whatever by their parents because they were circumsized.

We had a small boy in the ER with phimosis and it was horrible! He had to undergo an emergent circumcision. I visited the child several times afterwards (I happened to be their neighbor) and that poor child was in agony for several weeks. The mother had been berated about having her son circ'd when he was born and she gave into the pressure and did not have him circ'd. She said she will never ever again have a son without having him circ'd before they leave the hospital. The little 3 year old boy was on a narcotic pain med for almost 3 weeks and took 5 weeks to completely recover.

I am a man... I was abused by being cut.

What evidence do you have that they ARE NOT traumatized by this? I was traumatized getting my ears pierced! And that was my decision!

I actually have know several men who resent being circ'd...SEVERAL.
AND Phimosis is horrible, but it is also not common....it is just where the (and I know you know this, I'm not saying you don't) foreskin doesn't fully retract...but there are ways of fixing that without circ'ing.
More common than Phimosis is botched circs....sadly.

I've had my ears pierced x 2 and I wasn't in the least traumatized, perhaps that is an individual reaction.

I have never heard a guy say he was traumatized by being circumsized. Seriously, have you? I do know several uncircumsized guys who wish they had been circumsized at birth because they're too chicken to do it now.