Studies Support Home Birthing Option! - page 2

Ackermann-Liebrich U et al. Home versus hospital deliveries: follow up study of matched pairs for procedures and outcomes. BMJ, 1996;313: 1313-1318. During delivery the home birth group needed... Read More

  1. by   fergus51
    I am in Canada and there are definitely a lot of nurses who do support women in their choices, but there are a lot who don't. Our facility is notorious for c-section rates and interventions in general. One nurse in particular won't take women with birth plans if she can avoid it because she doesn't like them! I take them because I enjoy working in partnership with my patients. Too many nurses and doctors want to maintain control. I should say that it depends on who the doc is and who the nurse is. I know some women have great experiences, but I know a lot who don't. The bigger facilities are rumored to be a lot more open about choices for women in labor.
  2. by   lissagirl
    WOW....
    I am just gonna jump right in, just gotta give my 2 cents worth. I am trying to resist ladies and I just cant.
    I am not a health care provider in any way (disclaimer hehe )
    I am a student, a consumer and a birth enthusiast, it is from the latter two that I am drawing my statement.
    I have had 3 children and I have done it 3 different ways:
    First in a hospital with an ob, no childbirth classes and barely a clue as to the specifics of labor and delivery. I planned for an epidural. After being admitted I was 3 centimeters dilated, they told me no epidural yet, you will be here all day, relax and wait. In an hour they checked again, not much changed. I went to the bathroom after nurse walked out. Was in a lot of pain, no epidural still, water broke on the toilet got back in bed pushed button nurse walks in gasps and walks out...baby was crowning!
    Nurse comes back in does a wonderful job albeit she is instructing me on how to NOT have the baby LOL. Doctor finally arrives and voila...9 lb baby boy. All after being in the hospital only 2 hours, talk about precipitous.
    Second time around I wanna go natural I am very educated, I have a previous birth behind me. I found the most wonderful crunchy granola christian lady in the back woods of northern MS
    Oh I loved this gal. She had attended over 100 births assisted by an experienced and credentialed midwife, another 40 or so births as the primary midwife, clinical in a hospital with doctors in New Mexico and certifed there. Took NARM exam passed as CPM. Exellent 5 hour labor, no complications, beautiful 8lb girl...my mom was there for it all, she cried
    Last baby (sigh) I moved to FL couldnt find a homebirth midwife. Decided to go with reputable CNM grp. During my office visits I saw a diff CNM every time (was not entirely bothered). Towards the end one said your doing great, another said not enough weight gain, another harassed me about weather or not I smoked (I dont) saying that my placenta was calcified huh? In last 6 wks of preg had 4 ultrasounds and a non stress test every visit. At 39 wks I was scheduled for induction. Still plenty of amniotic fluid in there but baby was small and there was this placenta issue which despite my best efforts I could not get an explanation for other than its calcified and baby is not growing. The baby not growing was enough for me I agreed and the night I went in for induction I just happened to already be in labor:roll How convenient! 3 hours later healthy 61/2 pound girl.

    My personal observations and conclusions...
    I liked the CNMs least of all but I dont make blanket judgements tht does not mean I dislike all CNMs in general. I have even considered becoming one later on after I am wise hehe.
    Homebirth was the best experience overall and my "lay" midwife was my favorite attendent.
    My nurse at my first birth is a shining example of all a great L&D nurse should be she bonded with me right away, she made me calm comfortable and she was my advocate, they did drop the ball in the sense that they underestimated my little boys arrival but he throws his own mom for a loop all the time...why not the nurses as well I say!!
    Generally the types that want to birth at home are WELL educated and tough as nails. They know what they want to do, they are aware of pros and cons, they have looked up the stats and from a point of personal exp.. its easier physically and mentally to birth at home. And they are usually very healthy folks and very responsible ones too. If it were truly as dangerous as all that we would read the horror stories in papers BUT as with getting into your car and taking a drive there will always be the unforseen in the hospital and at home.
    Hospitals are hard places to birth in, fhm, iv dangling, the foreign noises, the docs and nurses poker faces...
    Yes I think you can have a satisfying birth in a hospital, but you must comply and not everyone is compliant.
    Sorry for the long rant! I want you all to know that I respect your personal opinions and very much enjoy reading all the different views.
    - Lissagirl
  3. by   lissagirl
    woops got some extra faces after that last post!
  4. by   canoehead
    Sorry to interrupt, but I wanted to know if the baby with the prolapsed cord on TLC turned out OK. Wish I had seen that one- I'm surprised the midwife was OK with having it on TV (!?)
  5. by   shay
    Yep, the baby lived. Not too sure how many brain cells were fried, but...the kid lived.

    On the home birth thing, had a home birth baby come in a couple of days ago....it's still in the NICU. Sorry, folks....I don't care how 'well-educated' you are, you can't make your uterus or fetus read all the information you have, they're gonna do what they want anyway no matter how much you KNOW or have read. I just think it's a bad idea.
  6. by   fergus51
    I've decided birth centers are the best place. Hospitals weren't made with birthing in mind and home kind of freaks me out. I say birth centers for all.... I wonder if I there are a lot of job openings in the US for L&D nurses in birth centers...
  7. by   shay
    Ferg, if you want to come to my neck of the woods, I can definitely give you some Birth Centers here that are HIRING!! Come on down, girlfriend!!
  8. by   fergus51
    What neck of the woods are you in? USA is kinda vague...
  9. by   JewelStream
    shay, like how you named it a *home birth baby*.....things happen to babies no matter where they are born, but more unneccessary interventions are made in hospital than anywhere else.

    If docs and nurses could learn to keep their hands out of a woman's vagina during the birth process, things would be much better!! Less reliance on technology and more on instinct!! Before technology came along, docs had other ways to know how a baby and mom were doing, now they rely on the machines that are not always reliable......I mean, how many times does the u/s say there is a problem with this or that, a HUGE baby or TINY baby....turns out not to be true....

    Hospitals are for the sick, I'm pg and not the least bit sick....why would I want to subject my baby to all the super germs of the hospital?? Or all the unneccessary procedures??

    Nursing school didn't teach me any of this....I had to seek out other ways to educate myself about how birth can be....how it should be.....
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I am for informed choice. Homebirth SHOULD be a legal option in every state, but if/when things go wrong, it can become a HUGE liability on our parts in the hospital when they come in. It's a double edged sword. Fortunately, MOST healthy pregnancies end up in healthy deliveries, at home or in the birth center/hospital. As for me? I would personally want to deliver in a midwife-run family birth center -----attended by midwives with hospital priveleges JUST IN CASE needed. But this IS just me.

    Let's just say I SUPPORT FREE INFORMED RESPONSIBLE CHOICE. Who am I to say who should deliver where?
  11. by   parteiranagua
    Quote from shay
    Ferg, if you want to come to my neck of the woods, I can definitely give you some Birth Centers here that are HIRING!! Come on down, girlfriend!!
    where where???? :hatparty:

    i would investigate!!!!
    Ginny DOula RN SNM
  12. by   parteiranagua
    Quote from JewelStream
    shay, like how you named it a *home birth baby*.....things happen to babies no matter where they are born, but more unneccessary interventions are made in hospital than anywhere else.

    If docs and nurses could learn to keep their hands out of a woman's vagina during the birth process, things would be much better!! Less reliance on technology and more on instinct!! Before technology came along, docs had other ways to know how a baby and mom were doing, now they rely on the machines that are not always reliable......I mean, how many times does the u/s say there is a problem with this or that, a HUGE baby or TINY baby....turns out not to be true....

    Hospitals are for the sick, I'm pg and not the least bit sick....why would I want to subject my baby to all the super germs of the hospital?? Or all the unneccessary procedures??

    Nursing school didn't teach me any of this....I had to seek out other ways to educate myself about how birth can be....how it should be.....
    true that.. But.. although I am a fervent partisan to homebirth and have helped in many settings as a doula, I have observed the following:
    The homebirth client "most of the time" is a creme of the crop client, they take care of themselves, do not smoke or drink and believe in their bodies..
    Now, the majority of the population that I receive in the hospital I work with, would not be imo the creme of the crop..except of course for a few..
    A MW usually reserves herself the right to refuse a client for a homebirth if she estimates the risk fators too being too high..
    Ginny Doula RN SNM
  13. by   klone
    I had a homebirth with a CPM with my second child, and if I had another baby (which I won't) I would do it again. I am very convinced that if I had had her in the hospital, I would have ended up with a C/S for FTP.

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