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No. 20
from mitchsmom
Old Sep 24, 2005, 11:12 AM
Updated Sep 24, 2005 at 11:28 AM by sirI

HomeofLove4Him,
I am between Orlando & Lake Okeechobee in the orange groves

Meaning, I am really far from any CNM program as well. Whenever the time comes (I am just looking to get my BSN in April for now!!), I will probably pursue a distance program like Frontier (I think a couple others are too, like Stony Brook CUNY; you can look up programs at www.acnm.org).

Or, I have been thinking about starting out with a family NP program and add on CNM certification later, when my kids are bigger (I have three little ones myself: 3, 6, 8). I was thinking maybe FNP would be a little bit of a more family-friendly schedule until the kids are older (although I'm not sure about this, have to ask around more). Of course, the program would be more accessible too... even with a distance program like Frontier, it will be hard for me because we have no CNM's delivering in my rural county. I'd have to commute to have a preceptor, and I'm not sure how that would work out unless I could stay the night somewhere... that all gets to be a lot with kids. But if you are in, or close to, a metro area, you should have a lot CNM's around you.

I did almost all of my prereqs online before starting my BSN program- even A&P, Chemistry & the labs! My husband does shiftwork so he is able to be with the kids a lot of the time, & my program allows part-time attendance (about 30% of it is online also), so with all that my little one doesn't have to do daycare too often.

Sorry if I hijacked this, just didn't know if maybe you'd be interested in how I'm doing it since I'm interested in CNM also (it's actually the reason I went back to school), in FL, have kids, etc. etc. :-)

You can send me a personal message, too.
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No. 21
from mitchsmom
Old Sep 24, 2005, 11:14 AM

Siri,
That is cool that you deliver also, I had not heard of that. Is that common where you are (what state?). So how do you distinguish yourself as an NP practice from a CNM?
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No. 22
Old Sep 28, 2005, 03:36 PM

hi! i just read your thread and i would like to know the day to day duties as an RN in the OB. My heart is in OB. I'm an LPn student and will be going for my RN's.
Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes
Ob nurses can be RN's or LPNs. RN training is at the associate or bachelor degree level. LPN's go to their own schooling which can be from one year fulltime to 2 years part time.

CNMs are nurses who have achieved education BEYOND THE BACHELOR DEGREE level by 2-3 years (or more). They have, in addition to having a bachelor's degree, gone to a school of midwifery (master's degree) for their training. Often, they have prior experience prior to attending school for midwifery as labor/delivery nurses, but not always.

A CNM is an independent provider of well-woman care to include pap smears, checkups, prenatal care, labor/delivery care, and menopause management. He/she often will have local hospital priveleges with physician backup or operate a freestanding birth center, near a hospital with csection priveleges. This person also holds medication prescriptive authority in the majority of US States.

The RN works with labor/delivery and mother-baby care in the hospital setting. He/she is not an independent care provider on the level of the CNM, rather he/she delivers care under the guidance/direction/orders from doctors and midwives. He or she is the "eyes and ears" of the care provider at the hospital, providing direct care for the birthing family's needs and keeping the midwife/physician informed of progress and patient conditions.

I can provide an extensive list of our day to day duties, (as RN's) after I find it ---if you would like.

I hope this helps you understand a little better, our roles as CNMs and nurses. They are separate and distinct.
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No. 23
from ChristineN
Old Oct 02, 2005, 12:52 PM

Hi, I'm a CNM hopeful and just wanted to jump in and say that Philly University and University of Cincinatti both have distance education programs as well. For those of you in (or have been in) distance ed, I have a question. How did you find a CNM to do clinical training with? Does the school keep a list of CNM's willing to work with them?
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No. 24
from midwife2b
Old Oct 03, 2005, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by NoelChristine
Hi, I'm a CNM hopeful and just wanted to jump in and say that Philly University and University of Cincinatti both have distance education programs as well. For those of you in (or have been in) distance ed, I have a question. How did you find a CNM to do clinical training with? Does the school keep a list of CNM's willing to work with them?
As more schools become online based, the list of CNM's and clinical sites grows. Schools have established relationships with certain CNM's. Over time clinical sites are "shared" by schools because of the online learning experience.

I used a clinical site that had been used by Yale and Frontier; I was the first person from my school to go there.

My school (East Carolina) is always interested in new clinical sites and you can approach the faculty with a potential site and they will investigate it. It has to be appropriate for the course you are in (of course), and there are contracts and paperwork that needs to be completed which can take many months.
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No. 25
from ChristineN
Old Oct 03, 2005, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by midwife2b
As more schools become online based, the list of CNM's and clinical sites grows. Schools have established relationships with certain CNM's. Over time clinical sites are "shared" by schools because of the online learning experience.

I used a clinical site that had been used by Yale and Frontier; I was the first person from my school to go there.

My school (East Carolina) is always interested in new clinical sites and you can approach the faculty with a potential site and they will investigate it. It has to be appropriate for the course you are in (of course), and there are contracts and paperwork that needs to be completed which can take many months.
Is it safe to say that a big city like Pittsburgh would all ready have an "approved" clinical site?
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No. 26
from ChristineN
Old Oct 03, 2005, 09:27 AM

FYI: while CNM training is years off for me, I've been looking into University of Cincinatti, Frontier, and Philly.
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No. 27
from midwife2b
Old Oct 03, 2005, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by NoelChristine
Is it safe to say that a big city like Pittsburgh would all ready have an "approved" clinical site?

I'd try googling "CNM in Pittsburgh" and see what you come up with...
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No. 28
from ChristineN
Old Oct 03, 2005, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by midwife2b
I'd try googling "CNM in Pittsburgh" and see what you come up with...
Great, I think I found something. Is a "prectorship" and a clinical location the same thing?
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No. 29
from KAYMAY09
Old Oct 14, 2009, 10:59 AM

Default Re: "OB-nurse" vs. CNM....difference?
Hey sirl I want to be a WHNP,CNM and an FNP How did you do it??
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