Moms who want to feel absolutely NO pain - page 4

This is another thing I didn't realize was as common as it is-people who want to feel zip in the way of pain. granted, most women who want epidurals do say that they want to wait until the pain is... Read More

  1. by   Jo Dirt
    I do not like to feel pain. I would want them to start the epidural ASAP. I don't think that makes me any less worthy of a person.
  2. by   Jo Dirt
    Quote from MD1211
    I'm thinking the nurse who said to behave like the 7 cm woman is NOT a good nurse. Everyone experiences pain differently. She would have been better by shutting her mouth and giving the 2 cm woman some meds.
    That's for sure. It really disgusts me to see some of the pious attitudes here (and it is beyond venting). When I had my first child #1-I am a very small person, #2-I'm very sensitive to outside stimuli. I am thankful the nurses at the hospital where I had my first child did not feel the way it looks like some here do. Like, if you don't want to be in pain that makes you less of a woman, means you have some kind of defect and should be held in disdain.
    I am starting to believe every patient needs a pushy family member by their side.
  3. by   Mrs.S
    Quote from motorcycle mama
    That's for sure. It really disgusts me to see some of the pious attitudes here (and it is beyond venting). When I had my first child #1-I am a very small person, #2-I'm very sensitive to outside stimuli. I am thankful the nurses at the hospital where I had my first child did not feel the way it looks like some here do. Like, if you don't want to be in pain that makes you less of a woman, means you have some kind of defect and should be held in disdain.
    I am starting to believe every patient needs a pushy family member by their side.
    maybe I missed it, but I did not get that from ANY of the posts here...
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from motorcycle mama
    That's for sure. It really disgusts me to see some of the pious attitudes here (and it is beyond venting). When I had my first child #1-I am a very small person, #2-I'm very sensitive to outside stimuli. I am thankful the nurses at the hospital where I had my first child did not feel the way it looks like some here do. Like, if you don't want to be in pain that makes you less of a woman, means you have some kind of defect and should be held in disdain.
    I am starting to believe every patient needs a pushy family member by their side.
    Be fair; the majority of people here are very supportive of the choices laboring women make. I don't see a whole lot of condemnation of women who chose to have epidurals in this thread.

    And you may want to keep in mind one thing: in some cases, pushy family members make situations worse, not better. As a nurse, I am sure you are aware of this.
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from motorcycle mama
    I do not like to feel pain. I would want them to start the epidural ASAP. I don't think that makes me any less worthy of a person.
    No not at all. But keep in mind, inappropriate timing of epidural CAN certainly raise the risk of a woman undergoing c-section for failure to progress, as just one reason/case.
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from cherrymary
    Right, and not only that they have the potential for slowing labor down (partly due to being strapped to one place, working against gravity), there's the fact that after getting an epidural women are NPO. At least at my hospital (I'm a doula) they are allowed to eat and drink lightly before they have one. So if you get an epidural before your labor is well-established (3-4 cm) you're setting yourself up for a long fast... First time labors can be 24+ hours, and inductions are generally days, not hours. That's a long time to go without food. Imagine telling a marathon runner they could only have ice chips for two or three days before the race!! It's not a surprise that this often leads to cesarean due to maternal exhaustion.

    I'm not against the use of epidurals, although as a doula I offer my clients alternative ways of dealing with pain (walking, changing position frequently, using the birth ball, massage, warm compresses, hot showers, breathing, visualization, aromatherapy, unconditional love and encouragement), but I do think they should be used judiciously, since we know that they can cause contractions to slow or even stop, which is dangerous for mom and baby. For this reason I also think that women should not be regularly induced before 42 weeks without indication of fetal distress (non-stress testing etc.) or other high-risk factors, which they currently are.

    Just my $0.02!!!
    I agree with you on all counts here. Epidural use in early or prodromal labor can definately raise risks and should be considered carefully. I have had a few cases whereby women had been previously sexually assaulted or otherwise scarred, and could not tolerate cervical checks, let alone vaginal birth or pain. For these women, the doctors wrote the order "epidural upon admission" when they were admitted for induction. I can certainly understand cases like these. But in most cases, it's just a very bad idea to get an epidural too early in labor.
  7. by   dawngloves
    Quote from cherrymary
    Right, and not only that they have the potential for slowing labor down (partly due to being strapped to one place, working against gravity), there's the fact that after getting an epidural women are NPO. At least at my hospital (I'm a doula) they are allowed to eat and drink lightly before they have one. So if you get an epidural before your labor is well-established (3-4 cm) you're setting yourself up for a long fast... First time labors can be 24+ hours, and inductions are generally days, not hours. That's a long time to go without food. Imagine telling a marathon runner they could only have ice chips for two or three days before the race!! It's not a surprise that this often leads to cesarean due to maternal exhaustion.
    Hospitals around here make you NPO just for showing up! Natural, Epidural, Pitocin, walking in the hall. You eat nada unti the baby is on the warmer.
  8. by   ZASHAGALKA
    I don't know what the big deal is. I had 3 boys and I didn't have an epidural or any pain management for that matter, and I don't recall hurting a bit.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

  9. by   bagladyrn
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    I don't know what the big deal is. I had 3 boys and I didn't have an epidural or any pain management for that matter, and I don't recall hurting a bit.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

    You may not have had pain then Timothy, but I bet you will if your wife reads this post.....:trout:
  10. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from bagladyrn
    You may not have had pain then Timothy, but I bet you will if your wife reads this post.....:trout:
    EX-wife. BTDT. Otherwise, I would have been too chicken to say that.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  11. by   CEG
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    I don't know what the big deal is. I had 3 boys and I didn't have an epidural or any pain management for that matter, and I don't recall hurting a bit.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

    I had to do a double take. My husband thinks he is funny when he says that, too!
  12. by   Gompers
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    I don't know what the big deal is. I had 3 boys and I didn't have an epidural or any pain management for that matter, and I don't recall hurting a bit.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

    Hardy har har har!

    Wish my dad could say the same, but my mom actually punched him several times during her labor with me. She also ripped the buttons off the OB's lab coat while screaming for some drugs. At one point, she actually got off the gurnee and said she was going home.

    I always think of Eric Cartman from South Park - "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home..."

    And yet, this is the same woman who is encouraging me to go without an epidural. She said to take IV pain meds early on so I could get some relief and save my energy for later, but that she thinks I can do it on my own after that. Even though her labor was incredibly painful, she said it wasn't as bad as her gallbladder attacks and that at least she knew the pain wouldn't last forever so it was bearable if she thought about it that way. What she remembers most, more than the pain, she says, is that immediately after I was born, she felt wonderful. Within an hour, she was up, taking a shower, eating a sandwich, laughing, etc.
  13. by   flytern
    There are side efffects from having an epidural too soon/too long. Ask any lactation consultant (not me!) Ours says if the patient has had an epidural for more than 3 hours, it really screws up the breastfeeding.

    Our hospitals policy: primip 3-4cms (unless the patient is such a pain, that the nurse begs for it (for her own sanity).

    multips usually 3cms.

    Most of our MDs believe getting it too early slows down labor, but I think it relaxes the patient enough so things start to move along. Plus, I can't remember the last time I didn't have to start Pitocin on a patient in labor
    (with or without the epidural).

    It is funny to see the difference between our female/male MD's. The males are very strict about pain meds. The females will let their patients get their epidurals anytime (except for the one who's never had children).


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