Lotus Birth...What do yall think about this? - page 9

This is a link I got from the Lysol Douche thread. The link was originally posted by Ktwlpn. I read it. Seem kind of weird to me. OB nurses does anyone see any huge benefit to this practice? ... Read More

  1. by   Q.
    Quote from vermonthiker
    I have two kids. I planned underwater births (didn't happen), I did have a midwife instead of a Dr., I homeschool them, I didn't circ them, I breastfed them for two years - first year on demand, no pacifiers, no bottles no solid food for 6 months,etc, we co-slept - never had a crib, I wore both babies a lot - used slings instead of swings, we built a log cabin in Vermont so our kids can have an old fashioned childhood (catching frogs and climbing trees instead of playing playstation).

    I'm also a vegan for crying out loud.

    With all of that said, I think dragging around a placenta on a baby one of the strangest things people can do.
    Your post made me giggle.

    BTW, off topic; the log cabin in Vermont catching frogs and climbing trees sounds wonderful - the kind of childhood I hope my kids will have. I always wanted a backyard large enough that butted up against a vacant field or some treed area for my kids to explore: play with bugs, etc - things I used to do. Right now we have a corner lot that has a 30ft backyard from the house that buts up to a neighbor's house. I envy you.
  2. by   parteiranagua
    Quote from Q.
    Ginny,
    Couldn't lotus birth be contraindicated in some patients? As in cases of maternal infection, Rh incompability, etc. Does it delay the transition from fetal to neonatal circulation? Does it increase the liklihood of a +Coombs test or elevated bili post birth?
    aw we r thinking ideally here... i dont think amy hospital would allow Lotus birth.. the infection control would not let that fly...
    So in a pt with the above condition..this is irrelevant since the patient would be on antibiotics IV anyway...
    With RH mhhhhh. studies diverge here.. some say that there is no more risks of blood transfer from Bb to mom when the cord is not cut right away.. to me Lotus birth does not change that parameter, given that blood transfer is completed once the cord stops pulsating anyway.. so same thing for increased risks of positive coombs and bili..

    But one again would be difficult to measure all of these since Lotus birth is a home birth thingy and that most of pt woud not care about coombs etc...
    Ginny Doula RN SNM
  3. by   parteiranagua
    Quote from Q.
    Right - they are counted when the cord is cut. So again, how would we accomplish this if we do not cut the cord?

    Again, do you know of any contraindications to a lotus birth for specific patients/conditions? re: my above questions.
    I meant when a U/S is done... lollll sorry!!!

    Ginny Doula RN SNM
  4. by   palesarah
    one of my coworkers brought her favorite purse to work today- red, half-mooned shaped and really just looking like a big, healthy placenta.... I stopped short of asking her if her bag was her substitute placenta and insteads shared some stories from this thread!
  5. by   Q.
    Quote from parteiranagua
    With RH mhhhhh. studies diverge here.. some say that there is no more risks of blood transfer from Bb to mom when the cord is not cut right away.. to me Lotus birth does not change that parameter, given that blood transfer is completed once the cord stops pulsating anyway.. so same thing for increased risks of positive coombs and bili..
    But if the blood transfer is completed, doesn't that defeat the argument for lotus births, which I thought was to continue with the blood transfer even after birth?
  6. by   BETSRN
    Quote from Rhoresmith
    I think what someone said earlier about maybe no medical benefit but if the mother/father feels this helps with the bonding of the child let it be. I worked at a protrait studio in a large chain store (begins with a W guess which one?) and I had people leave the hospital and bring that 2 day old newborn in and have pictures taken. Now mind you this is in the middle of flu season and I had coughing spitting kids all over the place and these parents are like oh well it will make the baby stronger. Guess what I see dad 2 days later at the hospital (where I am doing clinicals) and the baby is sick and later had to be transfered by helicopter to a NICU. Two weeks later read the babies obit in the paper. I really felt bad for those parents but I did all I could do at the studio to help with the germs. So the reason I got into this long story is if you do this lotus thing at least you stay HOME with the baby instead of taking them out into the world.
    I am really sorry that CMN got offended I think if this was a bonding experiance for her and her children good for her and I applaud her for taking the road less traveled
    I would never do this but I never even breastfed my kids so ....

    There is a BIG difference between breastfeeding your child (where the health benefits have been documented for years) and the benefits (if there are any) to a Lotus birth!
  7. by   parteiranagua
    Quote from Q.
    But if the blood transfer is completed, doesn't that defeat the argument for lotus births, which I thought was to continue with the blood transfer even after birth?
    I dont know about this argument.... if this is said, then it is flawed...
    Again, to me, Lotus birth is more of an individual choice than anything else, since it does not seem to have any physiological advantage nor disavantage for mom and babe..

    Ginny Doula RN SNM
  8. by   Mermaid4
    Hard to know since many of these moms won't allow lab tests on their babies afterwards. I don't think it should be at the hospital personally.....Old rotted tissue isn't a good thing in that sense....
  9. by   rnparrot
    Quote from L&Dsomeday
    Well, all I can say is I am good and ready to fast on Friday In fact, I am so grossed out that I could start today

    Tracy
    ok, ready to be REALLY grossed out? here is a list of what you can do with that placenta that you hold on to!!!

    Various Uses of Placenta
    Placenta Recipes (Mothering Magazine, September 1983, Vol. 28, pg 76) Each placenta weighs approximately 1/6 of the baby's weight. Cut the meat away from the membranes with a sharp knife. Discard the membranes.
    Placenta Cocktail: 1/4 cup raw placenta, 8oz V-8 juice, 2 ice cubes, 1/2 cup carrot. Blend at high speed for 10 seconds

    Placenta Lasagne: Use your favorite lasagne recipe and substitute this mixture for one layer of cheese. In 2 tbl. olive oil, quickly saute meat of 3/4 placenta, ground or minced plus 2 sliced cloves of garlic, 1/2 tsp. oregano, 1/2 diced onion & 2 tbl. tomato paste, or 1 whole tomato.

    Placenta Spaghetti: Cut meat of 3/4 placenta into bite size pieces, then brown quickly in 1 tbl. butter plus 1 tbl. oil. Then add 1 large can tomato puree, 2 cans crushed pear tomatoes, 1 onion, 2 cloves of garlic, 1 tbl. molasses, 1 bay leaf, 1 tbl. rosemary, 1 tsp. ea. of salt, honey, oregano, basil, and fennel. Simmer 1 1/2 hours.

    Placenta Stew: Meat of 3/4 placenta in bite size chunks, 1 potato (cubed), 1/4 cup fresh parsley, 2 carrots, 3 ribs celery, 1 zucchini, 1 large tomato, 1 small onion. Dredge meat in 1 tbl. flour mixed with 1 tsp salt, 1/2 tsp. paprika, pinch of cloves, pinch of pepper, 6-8 crushed coriander seeds. Saute meat in 2 tbl. oil, then add vegetables (cut up) and 4-5 cups of water. Bring to full boil, then simmer for 1 hour.

    Placenta Pizza: Grind placenta. Saute in 2 tbl. olive oil with 4 garlic cloves, then add 1/4 tsp fennel, 1/4 tsp. pepper, 1/4 tsp paprika, 1/4 tsp. salt, 1/2 tsp. oregano, 1/4 tsp. thyme, and 1/4 cup of wine. Allow to stand for 30 minutes, then use with your favorite home made pizza recipe. It's a fine placenta sausage topping.



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  10. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Hadn't been to this thread for a bit. The previous post was something i really didn't need to read before dinner.

    I'll see y'all on another thread that is a little less revolting.
  11. by   JVanRN
    yeah that was gross...er thanks
  12. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from rnparrot
    ok, ready to be REALLY grossed out? here is a list of what you can do with that placenta that you hold on to!!!

    Various Uses of Placenta
    Placenta Recipes (Mothering Magazine, September 1983, Vol. 28, pg 76) Each placenta weighs approximately 1/6 of the baby's weight. Cut the meat away from the membranes with a sharp knife. Discard the membranes.
    Placenta Cocktail: 1/4 cup raw placenta, 8oz V-8 juice, 2 ice cubes, 1/2 cup carrot. Blend at high speed for 10 seconds

    Placenta Lasagne: Use your favorite lasagne recipe and substitute this mixture for one layer of cheese. In 2 tbl. olive oil, quickly saute meat of 3/4 placenta, ground or minced plus 2 sliced cloves of garlic, 1/2 tsp. oregano, 1/2 diced onion & 2 tbl. tomato paste, or 1 whole tomato.

    Placenta Spaghetti: Cut meat of 3/4 placenta into bite size pieces, then brown quickly in 1 tbl. butter plus 1 tbl. oil. Then add 1 large can tomato puree, 2 cans crushed pear tomatoes, 1 onion, 2 cloves of garlic, 1 tbl. molasses, 1 bay leaf, 1 tbl. rosemary, 1 tsp. ea. of salt, honey, oregano, basil, and fennel. Simmer 1 1/2 hours.

    Placenta Stew: Meat of 3/4 placenta in bite size chunks, 1 potato (cubed), 1/4 cup fresh parsley, 2 carrots, 3 ribs celery, 1 zucchini, 1 large tomato, 1 small onion. Dredge meat in 1 tbl. flour mixed with 1 tsp salt, 1/2 tsp. paprika, pinch of cloves, pinch of pepper, 6-8 crushed coriander seeds. Saute meat in 2 tbl. oil, then add vegetables (cut up) and 4-5 cups of water. Bring to full boil, then simmer for 1 hour.

    Placenta Pizza: Grind placenta. Saute in 2 tbl. olive oil with 4 garlic cloves, then add 1/4 tsp fennel, 1/4 tsp. pepper, 1/4 tsp paprika, 1/4 tsp. salt, 1/2 tsp. oregano, 1/4 tsp. thyme, and 1/4 cup of wine. Allow to stand for 30 minutes, then use with your favorite home made pizza recipe. It's a fine placenta sausage topping.



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    WHOA.....just about blew slightly-used Oreos all over the keyboard
  13. by   rnparrot
    Quote from mjlrn97
    WHOA.....just about blew slightly-used Oreos all over the keyboard
    :smackingf i'm sorry if i grossed everyone out with my post. it is rather disgusting, but my point was to share with you other disgusting things that people do with that placenta they keep other than plant it. again im sorry...i didn't think it would gross out nurses though like that! i thought most of us had iron stomachs! :chuckle

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