Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
Ob-Gyn Nursing /

Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 388,142 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Oct 16, 2009 08:51 PM

Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts


"DONA International is pleased to announce that a new code for doulas in the United States has been approved and defined by the National Uniform Claim Committee. This code will come into effect on October 1, 2009 for services rendered after that date. Pat Burrell, a birth doula and registered nurse from South Carolina, was successful in lobbying for the assignment of the code, which will allow doulas to be assigned provider numbers to submit claims to both Medicaid and third-party payers for their services."


http://www.dona.org/


What are your thoughts on this? How might it affect nursing practice and patient care in hospitals?


Share

Search Tags
None
Top

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply
12 Comments
No. 1
Old Oct 17, 2009, 11:36 AM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
I think that's wonderful. Hopefully more hospitals will routinely offer doula services to their L&D patients. Many people still do not know what a doula is. Maybe it will become more commonplace for a laboring woman to have the support services of a doula (right now, you pretty much have to pay out-of-pocket). There have been many studies showing the positive effects of doula support during labor and delivery, both medical and psychosocial (creating a positive experience for the family).
Top
 
No. 2
from babyktchr
Old Oct 17, 2009, 05:09 PM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
I find it hard to believe that an insurance company will pay for a doula when they routinely deny routine preventative screenings and necessary procedures without jumping thru bureaucratic hoops. I will be interested to see if this really comes to frutition. I personally have not come across a doula that I would have back in my facility.
Top
 
No. 3
Old Oct 17, 2009, 09:50 PM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
This would be great. I am currently working on a grant to get money for doulas for low income woman...would save me a bunch of time!
Top
 
No. 4
from hallcrest
Old Oct 17, 2009, 10:08 PM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
wow babyktchr....strong words! how many doulas have you worked with?
Top
 
No. 5
from babyktchr
Old Oct 18, 2009, 08:56 AM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
I have had 8 come to my unit from time to time. To be honest, I probably haven't had the optimal chance to really see what doula's can do from these experiences. I read on this sight all of the time how doula's are so wonderful, and all I can do is shake my head. Maybe one day I will see the other side.
Top
 
No. 6
from hallcrest
Old Oct 18, 2009, 09:21 PM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
Thanks for your reply babyktchr. I have had one and only one experience with a doula, and that was the birth of my baby girl just shy of 2 years ago. It was fantastic, but I am not so naive as to think that every doula or every birth is as delightful as ours was.
I am especially interested to hear from L&D nurses how a possible shift toward embracing the care of a doula might practically alter the role of the nurse, and how this shift might alter the role of the nurse in the delivery room.
Top
 
No. 7
from Elvish
Old Oct 18, 2009, 11:04 PM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
In 'micro' I can see difficulties as babyktchr described. There are some doulas that are wonderful and some not so much. I've seen mostly great ones in my place.

Looking at it in 'macro', I think it is a wonderful thing....the same way I'd love it if my insurance paid for lactation consultants. Overall I think it's a great idea and very forward-thinking. Maybe they're thinking potential reduced costs in terms of fewer c/sections or costly labor interventions. Either way, I'm glad someone somewhere is starting to do this. I'm sure it'll take a while to catch on in my neck of the woods, but just because there are some bad doulas out there I don't think doula reimbursement should stop.
Top
 
No. 8
from rickelli
Old Oct 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
I think that it is wonderful that they can be compensated for what they do. I had a doula with my first surrogacy and she was great. I think that a good doula offers great support for the family and birthing mom especially when the nurse has so many things to do on her own and with other patients. And the husbands can usually only handle so much. The nurse doesn't always have time to do the little things that make the mom more comfortable. I think that these doulas need to be screened so that not just anyone can come in and say they are a doula and charge the insurance. I also believe that doulas are great to have around for women who don't have a support team at all (no husband, boyfriend or family members that want to take the time). My doula is now a midwife so I do think she was very qualified as a doula.
Top
 
No. 9
Old Oct 19, 2009, 07:40 AM

Default Re: Doulas & new insurance code, Oct. 1: your thoughts
I personally love working with doulas. With all the responsibilities a labor and delivery nurse has today, its comforting to know that someone is actually with my patient all the time and helping her deal with labor. I am lucky that at least 95% of all the doulas I have worked with have been awesome and fit in well with the birth team. I have heard that in order to be eligible for a provider code to bill medicaid and private insurance, you must be certified as a labor doula by one of the certifying organizations such as DONA or CAPPA. Perhaps this is a way to make sure the doulas working with our mothers are trained properly now.
I was under the impression that lactation consultants have always been able to get provider codes and submit charges for reimbursement. How do the ones who open up private offices get paid? I will ask a lactation consultant friend of mine.

Top
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
75 members
1,122 guests
1,197

6

California Imposes Stricter Rules Regarding Drug Abuse In...

19

Are older nurses being forced out of the profession?

3

An outlook in California?

8

Australian surgeons successfully separate conjoined twins

42

Disruptive behavior by doctors, nurses persists a year...

31

Woman sues after police tackle her in ER during premature...

5

Beyond The Last Lecture -For Randy & Jai Pausch nurses...

18

WHO: Give at-risk groups anti-flu drugs early

21

Nursing, medical schools should work together, experts say

6

Army nurse honored after 100th birthday



1

Society Needs Care Too

11

Why am I doing this, anyway?

2

Nurse Heal Thyself

9

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

17

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

14

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

37

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

20

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

19

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

24

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower





Sponsored Links

Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: