International Nurses and UK nursing - page 3

One of the topics that is raised frequently in the UK and International forums is how does an international nurse go about working in the UK. The replies are often negative and in general try to... Read More

  1. Visit  XB9S profile page
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    Hi Lime, I think you would find it difficult to study for the ONP and study for your HND. The ONP is going to require you to do some clinical work as part of the program, along with the studying and your HND it will be a great deal of work. I'm not saying it's not possible but I wonder if your setting yourself too difficult a challenge and would risk failing at both. You may also have to check with the borders agency as they will have allowed you a student Visa on the information you provided on the course your studying now, they may not wish to extend that to cover the ONP as well.

    Your second question, IF you complete the ONP then you will still need to fit into one of the shortage occupation catagories to apply for a work permit, it's not just a case of transferring your Visa over. If you've been studying for the HND for the past few years then I am not sure that you would fit the NMC criteria for registration, did you work as a registered nurse before you came on your student Visa?

    I am not sure about BUPA, but again they would only be able to sponsor those applicants who fit into the shortage occupations, so that would be operating department nursing, as I don't think BUPA have Neonatal intensive care units.

    As far as part time jobs go, look at the NHS jobs website, they will all be advertised here

    www.jobs.nhs.uk

    Just a cautionary note, when I've advertised for health care support workers in the past I always get in excess of 50 applications from UK citizens, I am legally obliged to interview these before overseas applicants therefore I am not sure how much luck your going to get


    I am sorry it all sounds so negative, Good Luck I hope you manage to achieve your dream
  2. Visit  helricha profile page
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    Hi. I was very pleased to find this blog. Thank you for all of the information that you have provided so far. Here is a little bit about myself:
    I am currently working as a RN, BSN in the US and will have two years experience at the time that I move to the UK (hopefully). I am a circulator/scrub/anesthesia nurse in the operating room (theatre nursing) and do have a wide range of cases and specialties of surgery that I do on a regular basis in a tertiary hospital that regularly runs 26 operating rooms and most of our patients have many comorbities. I also carry a ACLS certification (advanced cardiovascular life support), which of course provides me with the skills needed to administer life saving drugs and defibrillation when needed.
    I am aware that the specialty nursing that I do is on the shortage occupation list for the UK.
    I am also aware of the english proficiency test, the request for NMC application, and then the actual application and paperwork that needs to be sent in. I am also aware of the ONP, which I have already located the University of Bournemouth which I will be attempting to go through to take the course.
    With all of that said, and thank you for reading all of it, I am a little confused about when to apply for a job in the UK.
    Should I wait until I receive my decision letter from the NMC?
    Once I receive the decision letter, how long do I have until I have to take the ONP?
    The University of Bournemouth requires that I take the ONP within two years of receiving my decision letter, however, I am unaware of the NMC requirement.


    Thank you for any information that you may provide as I would like to get this started as soon as possible to be sure it is completed in time but not too soon as to miss any deadlines that may be imposed upon me.
    Kindest regards,
  3. Visit  XB9S profile page
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    Hello Helricha, I hope I can answer some of your questions.

    Should I wait until I receive my decision letter from the NMC?

    Yes the NMC process can take as long as 2 years to complete, although I've not actually been through it my colleagues from overseas tell me that it is an extremely complex process. You will first need to send an administration fee and documents to begin the process. If all is correct you will be sent an application pack and you have 6 months to return this. If you meet the requirements then you will be given a decision letter at which point in order to complete your registration you will need to undertake the ONP.


    Once I receive the decision letter, how long do I have until I have to take the ONP?

    I think it's 2 years, but you should check with the NMC

    The University of Bournemouth requires that I take the ONP within two years of receiving my decision letter, however, I am unaware of the NMC requirement.

    This sounds right, that's what I understand the requirement to be as well.


    As far as when to apply for a job in the UK, unless you are a UK or EU citizen I think your going to need an employer to sponsor your work visa, and if you fit into the shortage occupation list you may well find that some employers would be prepared to support you through the ONP.

    Get your NMC stuff in progress and then investigate a little further, I know many nurses have used agencies to help them and I guess there may be some mileage in looking into this but just be cautious as many of these agencies may well ask for money to do this and I am always suspicious of companies that want money up front without any guarantees.

    Look at the NHS jobs website, there is a link in my first few posts in the blog, it will give you an idea of what jobs are available now and which areas may be looking to recruit from overseas.

    Please keep us posted on how you get on
  4. Visit  coffee2468 profile page
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    Hi Sharrie, thank you for sharing so much information. I have a couple of questions and hopefully you wouldn't mind answering them. I'm a NZ registered Psychiatric Nurse with over 20 yrs experience ( also have irish citizenship). My question is will I have to complete the ILETS even though English is our first spoken language? Also,are there many jobs in the Mental Heath Sector at the moment? Thanks in advance
  5. Visit  nathano profile page
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    I am currently doing a ADN in Iowa USA I am on a F-1 student visa and come from Essex england originally so my question is what would happen if I can't extend my student visa or find work and have to come home?? Will I be able to work in a hospital back home in England with my associates degree??? Or just have to take a top up course?!
    At the end of the course I will be a qualified RN
  6. Visit  XB9S profile page
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    If you have to return to the UK, I assume your ADN is a 2 year course if which case it won't meet the NMC requirements for registration. If you look at one of the links in my first post you can find what is needed. To work as a nurse you'd need to register with them, you also need to have worked fir a year after qualifying to meet the overseas educated nurses standards for registration so you may have a problem if you can't work in the US.

    I don't think you'll be able to top up here either as a 2 year nursing course would not be recognised. I'm not sure if you could do it online as I think the clinical hours for the ADNs are insufficient to meet NMC standards.
  7. Visit  New Grad Jennifer profile page
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    Hi All! I see that these posts are from several months ago. I was wondering if the economic conditions in the UK have improved making it somewhat easier for international nurses to get jobs there? Also, if I am a native English speaker, will I still need to complete the IELTS exam? I took a look at samples of it and it looks easier than taking college entrance exams. One last question to see if I understood the NMC guidelines, after my application is accepted, I am to travel to the UK and attend the Overseas Nurse Program at a University which is 20 days long and then supervised clinical practice which is how long? With a work Visa, will I be able to find a side job while completing the program/supervised practice until I can work as a full time nurse in order to pay for living expenses? I read that employers are LEGALLY obligated to hire citizens and the Europeans first before international workers. Would they accept that my ancestors were English? That last line was meant to be funny. Thank you and I appreciate any information. Best Regards.
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    Quote from new grad jennifer
    hi all! i see that these posts are from several months ago. i was wondering if the economic conditions in the uk have improved making it somewhat easier for international nurses to get jobs there?

    i'm afraid not you need to work in a shortage occupation to be considered for a job in the uk and there are very few shortage nursing specialities listed.

    also, if i am a native english speaker, will i still need to complete the ielts exam?
    yes as an overseas nurse it's one of the requirements but as an english speaker you'll find it a breeze
    i took a look at samples of it and it looks easier than taking college entrance exams.

    one last question to see if i understood the nmc guidelines, after my application is accepted, i am to travel to the uk and attend the overseas nurse program at a university which is 20 days long and then supervised clinical practice which is how long? with a work visa, will i be able to find a side job while completing the program/supervised practice until i can work as a full time nurse in order to pay for living expenses?

    if your a full time student you can work up to 20 hours a week, i am not sure that this covers the onp though. some hospitals will pay you as an unqualified while you do the program but i think these are few

    i read that employers are legally obligated to hire citizens and the europeans first before international workers. would they accept that my ancestors were english? that last line was meant to be funny. thank you and i appreciate any information. best regards.
    ha, not unless you have a british passport.
  9. Visit  inaramarie profile page
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    Hi! What are considered the shortage areas? Would I qualify with 3 years Peds ICU experience?
  10. Visit  canadian5 profile page
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    Does anyone know if a RPN can work in the UK? If they can what is their qualification recognized as?

    Thanks
  11. Visit  XB9S profile page
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    Quote from canadian5
    Does anyone know if a RPN can work in the UK? If they can what is their qualification recognized as?

    Thanks
    Check the NMC website, it'll depend on your education and clinical hours in training. If its tiniest to the US LPN then I would say no.
  12. Visit  jenxx profile page
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    Hi! Can someone pls help me because I have an employer from UK and I need to know if this is real. He said he will process my visa and work permit in UK and from what I understand I need to pay for the work permit first so I can have my visa. Is that true? The 400 pounds work permit fee is very big for me, I don't want to waste money for that if it's fake.

    This is his message:
    "Listen now, on your visa application forms they required your working permit number.Mallinson will process your visa and working permit same time together.British Labour Department will approve your working permit first before issue visa.

    I am your employer and i am the one who will guide you on how to procure your documents to avoid any problem.You will follow all my instruction if you are willing to work for me.I have told you all the procedures and you must comply to ensure you have all your documents on time.You are not in England and you haven't travel to Europe or England.This is England procedures.You have to secure working permit registration number first before they will approve your visa.

    Hope you understand?"
  13. Visit  smariej14 profile page
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    I have been considering looking into international nursing after I complete my master's degree to become a family nurse practitioner in 2014. I finished an accelerated program at the University of Pennsylvania in 2010 and now work as a BSN, RN on an adult general medicine unit at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania (liver failure, pulmonary failure, renal failure, pre-transplant). Would it still be impossible for me to register with the NMC (given that I attended an accelerated program) even after several years as a nurse and an advanced degree? I understand that education is important, especially if you are a new graduate, but do they weigh education as heavily for experienced nurses? The accelerated program I attended was 18 months but we completed the same number of clinical and theory hours as the normal undergraduate population. I would love to work at King's College Hospital as they have a very good liver treatment department, but I suppose that's ridiculous given what I've read. Thank you.

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