Clinical hours short of NMC suggestion?

[helricha]

First of all, I really hope Silverdragon reads this and gives me insight.

I have sent out my application as well as all of my paperwork to the NMC for my nursing license, except my training form. I was trained in the US at an accredited University and received my bachelor degree, which consisted of three full years of nursing training and one year of prerequisites.

I have been working for two years as a theatre nurse.

I passed my IELTS with 9's acrossed the board.

I have had my licensure body fill out the paper and mailed it.

The two references are filled out and mailed.

In other words, I fulfill all the requirements of licensure in the UK thus far.

My concern is: when the dean of my university took my transcripts, she needed to convert the credit hours to actual hours. The clinical hours that she calculated up was in the six hundreds. The NMC suggests approximately two thousand hours for clinical time.

How can there be such a difference?

Will this affect my ability to be licensed in the uk?

I am frustrated that with all of the work and money I've spent on this, that it may not come to fruition. In addition, I am moving to the UK next April regardless of the decision of the NMC, as I will be going on a spousal visa. But I am also aware that there is no more clinical training hours that I could have possibly taken to add up to their suggestion.

Am I missing something?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Heather

[migraineattack]

hey coffee and baby.. i wish i can pm you..

[migraineattack]

Coffee Nurse I'd love to hear about your experience with them. I haven't been chatty enough to send you a PM.

My next step is the ONP so I would really like to know your thoughts about it either good, bad or other. Are the 3 days on campus full days? Do you sit exams or papers on the middle and last day.

I have millions of questions.

Are you sharing a house or did you go out on your own?

How far are you living from your employment?

How do you find the 12hr shifts?

Where you given many options of which health service you could work in?

What has been the biggest surprise/shock?

Ah gee you better tell me what your having for dinner too. lol

Any tips and advice you could give would be greatly appreciated. :)

were you able to finish the onp? how was it? :)

[Coffee Nurse, BSN, RN]

You have 47 posts, you should be able to.

[Biggie1]

Hi everyone, I'm living in the UK, on a spousal visa, and have just taken my nclex..I passed which is wonderful and the greatest thing I've accomplished because I put off the nclex or 3 years . I'm so proud of myself for passing and studying my butt off for 4 months endlessly, but I'm also ver discouraged to learn that the NMCrequires 1 whole year f training in one's own country....ive been in a rut to decide, do I leave my husband for a year and o back to the PA, US, and do a year of training to gain my experience or should I stay here and just pick up a random health related job until we move elsewhere out of the UK....?? Is there none in my position? Please let me know. Thank you.

[babyNP., APRN]

Why did you wait 3 years to take the NCLEX? Never mind the UK--I don't think you'll be able to get a job in the states very readily either! There's no way around the 1 year requirement and you can do either of what you suggested...personally I would hate for my degree to go to waste. US nurses are paid much better than UK nurses, can you and DH move to the states for a year? US immigration is a bit of a nightmare though...check out visajourney.com if you want to go this route and learn about DCF.

[MuppetAus]

were you able to finish the onp? how was it? :)

Hi Migraineattack, I have finished the ONP with Bournemouth and passed the workbook and the 30 minute multichoice exam. It was pretty easy. I finished my book by the second week. It isn't difficult, but it is time consuming because you spend hours looking things up and then entering what you find into the book. I didn't feel I learnt anything new from the course. The healthcare system seems pretty similar to Australia. Things/programs/systems just have different titles.

At present I'm waiting for my PIN from the NMC. I have made the final payment I am just waiting on the card. The waiting is the kiler it just feels like it is taking forever. I should hopefully be able to start work soon.

I am working for Continental Travelnurse. So far I have mixed feeling about them. My recruitment office who I first had contact with left. This made things difficult because things we had discussed and organised were not passed on so I had to start again with another person. My biggest whinge would be being forced to have a BCG injection. I was told if I didn't have it they could not guarntee that I would get work. So despite it only being 30% effective for my age group I have had this jab. There have been some problems with disorgainisation on there end but it has been quickly sorted out.

They also ask you do to some online training and attend 2 classes about CPR and manual handling. You pay for these. They are basic but it would have been nice to know before hand. I didn't love the 90 pound return train ticket to attend these course. Some of the online training could have been done before leaving Australia.

Continental have found accommodation for me when I start work. I don't know what it is like yet but it is close to the hospital. I wil let you know how things are when I'm a few weeks into a job.

[migraineattack]

Hi Migraineattack, I have finished the ONP with Bournemouth and passed the workbook and the 30 minute multichoice exam. It was pretty easy. I finished my book by the second week. It isn't difficult, but it is time consuming because you spend hours looking things up and then entering what you find into the book. I didn't feel I learnt anything new from the course. The healthcare system seems pretty similar to Australia. Things/programs/systems just have different titles.

At present I'm waiting for my PIN from the NMC. I have made the final payment I am just waiting on the card. The waiting is the kiler it just feels like it is taking forever. I should hopefully be able to start work soon.

I am working for Continental Travelnurse. So far I have mixed feeling about them. My recruitment office who I first had contact with left. This made things difficult because things we had discussed and organised were not passed on so I had to start again with another person. My biggest whinge would be being forced to have a BCG injection. I was told if I didn't have it they could not guarntee that I would get work. So despite it only being 30% effective for my age group I have had this jab. There have been some problems with disorgainisation on there end but it has been quickly sorted out.

They also ask you do to some online training and attend 2 classes about CPR and manual handling. You pay for these. They are basic but it would have been nice to know before hand. I didn't love the 90 pound return train ticket to attend these course. Some of the online training could have been done before leaving Australia.

Continental have found accommodation for me when I start work. I don't know what it is like yet but it is close to the hospital. I wil let you know how things are when I'm a few weeks into a job.

hi. thank you... i appreciate your reply. is it also possible to share your email address/fb account with me via pm since sending ang receiving messages here is limited. i would also like to work in uk, however, i don't think 25000aud will suffice everything-from visa

costs, onp, show money, daily living expenses, etc. my other option is to work in australia and live there if given the chance. im in a third world country and i have 3 years experience in nursing. i am willing to work in rural or regional areas and i am not picky. i need work, more than that, i believe it would be a big break for my career to enter oz and get into a new system. needless to say, i respect the diversity of my clients regardless of their race, educational background, age, religion, etc. by the way, do you think the said amount be sufficient if i opt for ahpra registration and undergo the bp? luckily, there is an agency in pi which offers financial assistance to nurses, although i must admit the interest rate is one hefty amount. i hope you can update me with your progress in uk. so you finished the onp last april, how come your pin was that delayed?

[Sahara311]

OK, I am currently in an ADN program. Specifically, a Transition ADN (I'm an LPN). I plan to do the ADN-BSN afterwards, and the only University in my area only offers their ADN-BSN as an online class. So, I have had 1 year of PN school, 1.5 years of RN, and possibly, 1.5 years of BSN. What are my chances to qualify with the NMC? I would really love to work in the UK...I'm too old for a Working Holiday Visa (32) to even get a job waiting tables, and this would be the only way, really, to work and see the UK.

Any thoughts?

[MuppetAus]

hi. thank you... i appreciate your reply. is it also possible to share your email address/fb account with me via pm since sending ang receiving messages here is limited. i would also like to work in uk, however, i don't think 25000aud will suffice everything-from visa

costs, onp, show money, daily living expenses, etc. my other option is to work in australia and live there if given the chance. im in a third world country and i have 3 years experience in nursing. i am willing to work in rural or regional areas and i am not picky. i need work, more than that, i believe it would be a big break for my career to enter oz and get into a new system. needless to say, i respect the diversity of my clients regardless of their race, educational background, age, religion, etc. by the way, do you think the said amount be sufficient if i opt for ahpra registration and undergo the bp? luckily, there is an agency in pi which offers financial assistance to nurses, although i must admit the interest rate is one hefty amount. i hope you can update me with your progress in uk. so you finished the onp last april, how come your pin was that delayed?

Hi, 25,000 Australian dollars will be plenty of money but if you meant 2,500 that wont cover much at all. Not even your flight if it is short notice.

The registration process for both the UK and Australia is pretty similar and both frustrating and slow. You will have to take an english language test for both countries.

Be very careful about using agents. There was a large group of nurses who came to my hospital a few years back. They had paid a large amount of money with the belief that they would have jobs. But none of them did and a few were even failed registration because their english was so bad or their paperwork was questionable. Some had to go back home because they couldn't afford to stay and look for work.

Remember that working in the UK and Australia nurses have a more hands on role than they do in your country. Familes very rarely assist with care, like showers, feeding and dressing.

If your not in a hurry I would suggest a few more years experience and try and specialise in a certain area. If you have a specialty it makes it much easier to find work.

[migraineattack]

Hi, 25,000 Australian dollars will be plenty of money but if you meant 2,500 that wont cover much at all. Not even your flight if it is short notice.

The registration process for both the UK and Australia is pretty similar and both frustrating and slow. You will have to take an english language test for both countries.

Be very careful about using agents. There was a large group of nurses who came to my hospital a few years back. They had paid a large amount of money with the belief that they would have jobs. But none of them did and a few were even failed registration because their english was so bad or their paperwork was questionable. Some had to go back home because they couldn't afford to stay and look for work.

Remember that working in the UK and Australia nurses have a more hands on role than they do in your country. Familes very rarely assist with care, like showers, feeding and dressing.

If your not in a hurry I would suggest a few more years experience and try and specialise in a certain area. If you have a specialty it makes it much easier to find work.

hi..yes i meant the former..it's 25000 aud..will it cover all expenses from onp, registration, etc? thanks for sharin your ideas and suggestion.. i found an agent tied up with a microfinancing company who is willing to loan as much as 25000aud to cover all the cost of registration in oz.. as to the ukrn process, how much should one need?thank you

[babyNP., APRN]

A working holiday? Are you Australian? You really need to call the NMC to ask about the LPN thing and ask as I've been reading on this board for many years and haven't heard anything about folks going through from the LPN route. If I was to guess, they would say no and you should do an entire ADN plus BSN (theyd on't take kindly to online programs either from what I've read)...

When you call them, you need to ask to speak to a decision officer because the people who answer the phones read off a piece of paper and don't know all the specifics. My first phone call, they told me I wouldn't be eligible period with my BSN, but I called again, talked to a decision officer who set me straight.

If you really just want to see the UK, you can go over there for up to 6 months without a visa as an American.

edit: sorry, this is to Sahara.

[hilife_RN]

Hi MuppetAus! Congrats! I hope you get your pin # soon from the NMC. I heard that it takes about 4-6 weeks? I was just curious, did you take the exam the third time your class met at Bournemouth? or did you guys meet up again on a different day to take the test?