Dx Chest Pain Careplan help..

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I need help with a chest pain dx for my care plan. My chart was taken from me by dr before I could get any info other than chest pain. Usually I am able to get vital signs and complaint but I wasn't able. I Thght of ineffective tissue perfusion but was not sure what it is r/t since I didn't have a chance to look. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

KBICU

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Specializes in Intensive Care Unit.

I'm not sure how you can be expected to write a care plan with essentially no information on the patient ...any way to get the info or pick someone else?

LaurenRay1983

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I know. I do have to come up with something though. I will have to explain to my instructor what happened. We only have a limited amt of time to get info on days we are not in clinical. I will just review my chest pain section.

KBICU

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Specializes in Intensive Care Unit.

In that case see if there are any nursing dx related to pain I'm not sure if you have enough info for much else. If you find some your thinking of post them if you want :) good luck!

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tnbutterfly - Mary, BSN

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hodgieRN

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Specializes in ER trauma, ICU - trauma, neuro surgical.

Yeah, that's not gonna easy. A good number of diagnosis come from just being in the hospital or the nurses witnessing any risk factors. Even the vital signs could trigger a nursing diagnosis. I can't think of anything other than pain without other info. Sorry :(

BiohazardBetty

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Specializes in Oncology, Palliative Care.

Even though you didn't get to see the chart, you still got to see your patient, right?? So you got your own vitals, did your own assessments...? That's all you need to choose a nursing diagnosis.

Acute pain is a nursing Dx that comes to mind.

BiohazardBetty

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Specializes in Oncology, Palliative Care.

If its chest pain as s/s of an MI it would be impaired cardiac perfusion. Chest pain as s/s of a respiratory issue it could be ineffective breathing pattern. Chest pain from a fall could be simply pain/ risk for trauma.

LaurenRay1983

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Thanks for all the tips. I was able to see the patient for a moment before the staff transported the patient to a procedure room. I was able to contact my instructor and he understood. He said things happen and I will be able to look at the chart before clinical begins. Thanks again for all the tips.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

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Let the patient/patient assessment drive your diagnosis. Do not try to fit the patient to the diagnosis you found first. You need to know the pathophysiology of your disease process. You need to assess your patient, collect data then find a diagnosis. Let the patient data drive the diagnosis.

What is your assessment? What are the vital signs? What is your patient saying?. Is the the patient having pain? Are they having difficulty with ADLS? What teaching do they need? What does the patient need? What is the most important to them now? What is important for them to know in the future. What is YOUR scenario? TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PATIENT...:)

The medical diagnosis is the disease itself. It is what the patient has not necessarily what the patient needs. the nursing diagnosis is what are you going to do about it, what are you going to look for, and what do you need to do/look for first. From what you posted I do not have the information necessary to make a nursing diagnosis.

Care plans when you are in school are teaching you what you need to do to actually look for, what you need to do to intervene and improve for the patient to be well and return to their previous level of life or to make them the best you you can be. It is trying to teach you how to think like a nurse.

Think of the care plan as a recipe to caring for your patient. your plan of how you are going to care for them. how you are going to care for them. what you want to happen as a result of your caring for them. What would you like to see for them in the future, even if that goal is that you don't want them to become worse, maintain the same, or even to have a peaceful pain free death.

Every single nursing diagnosis has its own set of symptoms, or defining characteristics. they are listed in the NANDA taxonomy and in many of the current nursing care plan books that are currently on the market that include nursing diagnosis information. You need to have access to these books when you are working on care plans. You need to use the nursing diagnoses that NANDA has defined and given related factors and defining characteristics for. These books have what you need to get this information to help you in writing care plans so you diagnose your patients correctly.

Don't focus your efforts on the nursing diagnoses when you should be focusing on the assessment and the patients abnormal data that you collected. These will become their symptoms, or what NANDA calls defining characteristics. From a very wise an contributor daytonite.......make sure you follow these steps first and in order and let the patient drive your diagnosis not try to fit the patient to the diagnosis you found first.

Here are the steps of the nursing process and what you should be doing in each step when you are doing a written care plan: ADPIE

  1. Assessment (collect data from medical record, do a physical assessment of the patient, assess ADLS, look up information about your patient's medical diseases/conditions to learn about the signs and symptoms and pathophysiology)
  2. Determination of the patient's problem(s)/nursing diagnosis (make a list of the abnormal assessment data, match your abnormal assessment data to likely nursing diagnoses, decide on the nursing diagnoses to use)
  3. Planning (write measurable goals/outcomes and nursing interventions)
  4. Implementation (initiate the care plan)
  5. Evaluation (determine if goals/outcomes have been met)

Care plan reality: The foundation of any care plan is the signs, symptoms or responses that patient is having to what is happening to them. What is happening to them could be the medical disease, a physical condition, a failure to perform ADLS (activities of daily living), or a failure to be able to interact appropriately or successfully within their environment. Therefore, one of your primary goals as a problem solver is to collect as much data as you can get your hands on. The more the better. You have to be the detective and always be on the alert and lookout for clues, at all times, and that is Step #1 of the nursing process.

Assessment is an important skill. It will take you a long time to become proficient in assessing patients. Assessment not only includes doing the traditional head-to-toe exam, but also listening to what patients have to say and questioning them. History can reveal import clues. It takes time and experience to know what questions to ask to elicit good answers (interview skills). Part of this assessment process is knowing the pathophysiology of the medical disease or condition that the patient has. But, there will be times that this won't be known. Just keep in mind that you have to be like a nurse detective always snooping around and looking for those clues.

A nursing diagnosis standing by itself means nothing. The meat of this care plan of yours will lie in the abnormal data (symptoms) that you collected during your assessment of this patient......in order for you to pick any nursing diagnoses for a patient you need to know what the patient's symptoms are. Although your patient isn't real you do have information available.

What I would suggest you do is to work the nursing process from step #1. Take a look at the information you collected on the patient during your physical assessment and review of their medical record. Start making a list of abnormal data which will now become a list of their symptoms. Don't forget to include an assessment of their ability to perform ADLS (because that's what we nurses shine at). The ADLS are bathing, dressing, transferring from bed or chair, walking, eating, toilet use, and grooming. and, one more thing you should do is to look up information about symptoms that stand out to you. What is the physiology and what are the signs and symptoms (manifestations) you are likely to see in the patient. did you miss any of the signs and symptoms in the patient? if so, now is the time to add them to your list. This is all part of preparing to move onto step #2 of the process which is determining your patient's problem and choosing nursing diagnoses. but, you have to have those signs, symptoms and patient responses to back it all up.

Care plan reality: What you are calling a nursing diagnosis is actually a shorthand label for the patient problem.. The patient problem is more accurately described in the definition of the nursing diagnosis.

So tell me about your patient.......What do they need? What do they c/o? YOu know they have Acute pain......what was the procedure?

LaurenRay1983

107 Posts

Esme thanks for the awesome info. I know you took time to write this to me and I thank you. I will use this for a guide. Thanks again.

To everyone else I thank you also. You all have helped me and I have fallen in love with this site. I hope to be as helpful as you have been to me one day.

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