Clinical Failure - page 2
by student1919 | 12,539 Views | 67 Comments
So, I am on the brink of getting kicked out of my program due to the clinical setting. I arrived late quite a few times and the instructors don't like me or teach me, just reprimand me. I get 80-90% on the exams but it doesn't... Read More
- 6Oct 2, '12 by artsmom"I would suggest being honest and letting them know you are ready to make a change and be responsible for the rest of the program."[/QUOTE]
I think this would be your best approach. Leave way too early for clinicals, don't wear nail polish, stop filing all the grievances, and just do what you have to do! I doubt you want to fail out of a program you have already invested your time and money into. Nothing is cheap these days!Last edit by artsmom on Oct 2, '12 : Reason: I quoted someone and it doesn't show that way
- 3Oct 3, '12 by wannabeRNbrandyQuote from KelRN215^This- in every waySorry, being late to clinical "quite a few times" is a valid reason for your instructor to fail you just as it is a valid reason for a future boss to fire you. I've seen nurses get fired for this before. If it happens once or twice and there's a legit reason why you're late, they'll likely be understanding. "My car broke down and I'm waiting for triple A, I'll get there as soon as I can" is likely to be met with a better response than "I'm late for the 3rd week in a row but I just couldn't get out of bed." You apparently have been in clinical for a number of weeks if you've been late "quite a few times". My suggestion to you there is to wake up earlier and leave earlier. You know that you're late when you leave your house at the time you're currently leaving, so figure out what time you need to leave to get there on time. You've already failed one course for being late, why haven't you taken that into consideration and started arriving on time?
It is your personal/professional responsibility to make sure that your TB screening is completed per the requirements of the program and, in the future, per the requirements of your employer. People who did not complete this on time at my hospital job were not allowed to complete their annual review which delayed their raise. Once it was so late, there was talk of no raise and disciplinary action.
My suggestion would be to stop filing so many grievances (it sounds like the school has valid reasons for what they're doing and, no, being late "quite a few times" is not "the smallest reason") and to focus on your academics. "My test is late because I was filing a grievance against the professor for failing me because I never showed up to clinical on time" is not going to go over well. The school likely has policies on late assignments and clinical arrival times. It's also not an excuse that a test was 2 weeks late because you were "busy writing papers". There's a LOT of work in nursing school, you need to learn time management. You need it in nursing school and you especially need it in real life nursing.
- 1Oct 3, '12 by laurie0313I know a few that would give their teeth gladly to be in clinical. You need to do something to change and fast, otherwise you may as well start looking to change your major. No boss is going to put up with tardiness without a certifiable emergency, especially if it is habitual.
- 10Oct 3, '12 by newhospicern, BSN, RNIs this for real? If so, I don't see one iota of responsibility being taken here, for anything. First of all, being late to clinical 'quite a few times' is inexcusable. It reflects badly on you and your school. It shows a poor work ethic. Why should the instructors care about educating you when you don't seem to care about your education enough to be on time?
Moving on the the nitpicking about the nail polish color. This has nothing to do with wearing the wrong color and everything to do with the fact you shouldn't be wearing nail polish in clinical AT ALL. I don't know how you've made it this far without learning that.
And lastly, the TB test. They gave you two weeks to do it and you're complaining you were too busy working on your grievances. Seriously, you couldn't find and hour to go get the test and another 15 minutes a couple days later to have it verified?
I'm not trying to be snarky-- but you don't seem to realize how serious your behavior really is.
- 8Oct 3, '12 by newhospicern, BSN, RNQuote from student1919&I think I would be fired for being late. The TB test I would have been able to get done at my place of employment so it wouldn't have happened. I didn't know where people get those done. I'm still slightly confused about it. I would probably work night shift so it would be easier to arrive early, and hence solve the issue of being late. We're only given one option for the time of the clinical. I always have a reason for being late, but it doesn't matter unless its something as serious as death. For instance, there was an accident on the part of the highway without a shoulder. I come from a different county on the opposite side of town than everyone else in my clinical, so they didn't run into this issue.
Quote from student1919I see a whole lot of excuses and rationalizations here, and no responsibility being taken. I don't know anyone who gets to choose their clinical time... a wreck is a good excuse.. what about all the other days you're late?? Oversleeping is really not a valid excuse. I have to get up at 3:45am to make it to my clinical on time as I live over an hour away and we have to be there by 5:30am. I'm not the only one driving that far and they all make it on time too.Regarding the grievance, I filed it because she failed me when she was off of the floor with one of her favorite students, and decided I didn't arrive until she got back. There's a lotta favoritism at this school. She also had the staff nurses teach me how to pass meds instead of doing it herself, and based her clinical evaluation on what she heard from other people, since she never spent time with me during care herself. The main nurse she based the evaluation off of was in a dispute with the other nurse I worked with and they were writing each other up etc. Very unprofessional.
Waiting until you get a 'night' job to solve the issue of being late isn't going to cut it. You're not going to make it that far if you wait until then for a solution to your tardiness. If you have to get up at 4am, get to the hospital an hour early, do it. Use the time to study. You need to own this stuff and fix it.
- 2Oct 3, '12 by kaydensmom01You are not taking responsibility, as everyone else has stated. I am not sure what you wanted by coming on here, we can not support YOUR DECISIONS about filing grievances about being late. We have to be at our clinical at 3am, 4 people liver over 1.5 hours from there and they make it on time. They stay at hotels sometimes. We do not get to choose our clinical time either, that does not give you a reason for being late. You chose to go into the nursing program, you need to do the work associated with it. It is ridiculous that you are making so many excuses for not doing what you need to do. We also have to have annual TB tests done, this is in every health care field. The other students knew you had said, so you should have. I am also not trying to be mean, but you come on here complaining about possibly failing for reasons that you think are unfair? They are not unfair, anyone at my school would fail after being late twice, regardless of the reason!
It seems like you need to grow up and stop making excuses. We are all telling you that you are, that these are ligitimate reasons to fail but you do not seem to get it! I would not be filing grievances for something that is actually your fault. I can not believe that you think being caught up in paperwork from filing a grievance is a reason to be late on your test. Just for that we would be done with our program. There is NO reason why you should ever be 2 weeks late on a test.
You choose this route, you did, no one else made you do this. You do not seem to realize that when you choose this path, you choose the work that comes with it. Maybe you should of looked into nursing school further before you jumped into it because you seem to not know what it entails.
- 3Oct 3, '12 by kaydensmom01Quote from student1919Giving an F from a nurse's evaluation is normal. Your instructor cannot be 10 places at once, the nurse that you are with is to observe and see if you are behaving appropriately.Regarding the grievance, I filed it because she failed me when she was off of the floor with one of her favorite students, and decided I didn't arrive until she got back. There's a lotta favoritism at this school. She also had the staff nurses teach me how to pass meds instead of doing it herself, and based her clinical evaluation on what she heard from other people, since she never spent time with me during care herself. The main nurse she based the evaluation off of was in a dispute with the other nurse I worked with and they were writing each other up etc. Very unprofessional.
Maybe the instructor likes the student because she shows up on time and does her work appropriately. I do not think that ANY teacher would like a student that is constantly late, and that does not see anything wrong with it because "they didn't get to choose their clinical time".
- 4Oct 3, '12 by blacktalon06You have to think of nursing school as a job. Leave early, plan for the unknown such as a car wreck, unexpected road construction, or a bridge being up. It is your responsibility to be on time regardless of the circumstances. Leave early, set multiple alarms, or if your family life is causing you to be late, talk to them and set boundaries. I live about 2 minutes from my college, and I leave 30 minutes before class to be sure I am there on time, and my clinicals this quarter are 20 minutes away and I leave 1 hour prior to leave enough time for the unexpected. Remember that nurses are accountable and autonomous. Neither of which you are displaying by being late and making excuses.
You have to remember that when you finish your program, your instructors are your best resource for letters of recommendation. Who else knows better about your skills, and level of compassion as a nurse than your instructors? If you are constantly late, not finishing tests as assigned, and filing grievances on top of it all, then they aren't going to be very likely to take their own personal time to help you acquire employment. If you aren't willing to respect their time then why should they repsect yours?