I think cutsey scrub tops look ridiculous on adult units - page 26

by AZO49008 50,772 Views | 325 Comments

The other day a co-worker strolled in wearing a scrub top festooned with furry, smiling teddy bears. On an adult cardiac floor...REALLY? On various adult units I've seen Looney Tunes, Precious Moments, rainbows and clouds,... Read More


  1. 1
    Quote from CuriousMe
    ad hominem: is an attempt to persuade which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise (quoted from Wikipedia)

    My argument was not an ad hominem, I didn't try and dispute the validity of your statements about childish scrub patterns by slandering your character. I said your reply about sneakers appeared as petulant misdirection of the topic (your reply....I don't know you from a hole in the wall). Commenting on a tangential reply, and stating that it was a tangential reply, in no way discredits your stance on childish scrubs.

    My comment about your reply was not complimentary....but it was neither an ad hominem argument or an attack to your person.


    Can we please get back to the actual topic? If you feel the need to discuss this further, please feel free to PM me.
    Thanks for clarifying that for me. Out of everything in my last post, your choice to focus only on whether your completely unnecessary and one-sided hostility toward me was not "ad hominem", it was simply "not complimentary" Really? Maybe it's that New York style of communication you referenced earlier. I have some cousins who live there. I'll check with them.

    Back to the topic. You think Lady Gaga looks like an adult in that outfit that makes her butt look like the Michelin Tire guy with everything but the butt part removed? She doesn't look like a child. True. But I don't think "adult" is exactly accurate either.

    I confess I haven't seen many nurses wearing prints that stand out as "childish". I work in home health now anyway, which should probably exempt me from this discussion. Mostly free from the scorn of their colleagues, nurses wear the darndest things to work! I'm sure most people here would look askance at a nurse who came to work in cut-offs and flip-flops, carrying a large tote bag or a trash bag, fished around in it and pulled out a wad of something made out of cloth and headed to the BR to change. One of my nurse colleagues came to work in a hot pink Hannah Montana nightshirt, and she's 55 years old. Yes, it was night shift, but still. . . I've seen the bag lady routine happen more than once, too. So the idea of a nice neat top with a character print seems tame to me in comparison!!
    wooh likes this.
  2. 1
    Quote from curiousme
    not deluded to think that you shouldn't be judged on your appearance, but deluded to think that you're not.

    i agree, folks should create their first impression of us based on qualities such as competence and our character....but they don't. they base their first impression on our appearance....then hopefully see the rest as time goes on.



    patient's aren't going to say, "good morning, wow that scrub top looks ridiculous." fellow health care professionals also aren't going to critique your scrubs to your face, but when they're all dressed as adults, and rn's are wearing hello kitty...it's not likely they're going to think, "my she looks professional in that hello kitty scrub top." why start a therapeutic relationship with a patient by having to work uphill and overcome a dicey first impression? why give the impression that we're less professional than we are? are juvenile print scrubs that important?
    well put. while it is ultimately up to us, as professionals to decide what to wear, such controversial wardrobe choices are unlikely to make new co-workers or patients perceive us as the knowledgeable, competent professionals we are. and changing someone's mind, once it's made up, is a truly difficult thing.


    Paco-RN likes this.
  3. 1
    Quote from cherrybreeze
    . Anyone who says they don't question her competence and professionalism is LYING.

    I'm going to say this once as this seems to apply to me only, so please don't take this the wrong way but I DON'T LIE!! Having spent my ENTIRE life being judged by my looks (racial) I can honestly say that I don't think a person in uncompetent or unprofessional because they are wearing teddy bears or winne the pooh. And I try really hard not to make judgement on them period until I meet them. Just because people do it doesn't mean you should.
    wooh likes this.
  4. 4
    Quote from eeyorelov
    Having spent my ENTIRE life being judged by my looks (racial) I can honestly say that I don't think a person in uncompetent or unprofessional because they are wearing teddy bears or winne the pooh.
    and you can unequivocally state that you don't think a person incompetent or unprofessional when they look like a hooker that's had a rough, sleepless night?
    seriously?

    leslie
    Paco-RN, morphed, Bloop23, and 1 other like this.
  5. 2
    I don't get why it's such a bad thing to take in sensory cues and make inferences based on them. How do you know the person you are talking to is a woman? Well, she has a raised "bump" in the upper 1/3 of her torso--previous experience tells us this tends to be breasts. She does not have facial hair--previous experience associates this with women and youth. She has long/longer hair--previous experience tells us that generally this is seen on women. There is no overly prominent brow ridge--previous experience shows this to be a feminine trait. She is wearing a skirt--out culture tells us that only women wear skirts. Etc, etc, etc. You see where I'm going with this.

    So, I can comfortably and rightly tell you that I will judge a person based on what I see. We as humans are meant to do it, we base all of our acts on seeing sensory cues and basing judgments on them. I know that when I dress sloppy and I haven't taken the time to do my hair/makeup or I have chipped nails I give off a sloppy, lazy, uninterested image. And it's true. That's why I avoid dressing and looking like that, I want people to know that I am orderly, I take care of myself, I care about myself. In turn, if I see a grown adult in cartoons, EVEN if it's neatly pressed, I will judge them and wonder why they would think it's appropriate.
    CuriousMe and Paco-RN like this.
  6. 0
    Quote from leslie :-D
    and you can unequivocally state that you don't think a person incompetent or unprofessional when they look like a hooker that's had a rough, sleepless night?
    seriously?

    leslie

    What part of I DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE LEST I BE JUDGED is not getting through. I have been judged before, therfore I don't look and people and make judgements, I wait until I see them interact or they start talking. And if you read my post and the OP he wasn't referring to clothing that is too tight or showed too much skin, I specifically said scrubs with Charactors on them ie disney, teddy bears, rainbows ect. Maybe the rest of you can go about your life looking at people and making snap judgements about what kind of person they are based on how they look, I seriously don't. Becuase it starts with what they are wearing but that practice can and DOES become racial (as it is for me), gender, reliogious ect ect ect.
  7. 1
    Quote from eeyorelov
    What part of I DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE LEST I BE JUDGED is not getting through. I have been judged before, therfore I don't look and people and make judgements, I wait until I see them interact or they start talking. And if you read my post and the OP he wasn't referring to clothing that is too tight or showed too much skin, I specifically said scrubs with Charactors on them ie disney, teddy bears, rainbows ect. Maybe the rest of you can go about your life looking at people and making snap judgements about what kind of person they are based on how they look, I seriously don't. Becuase it starts with what they are wearing but that practice can and DOES become racial (as it is for me), gender, reliogious ect ect ect.

    If you look at someone and determine their gender or sex before you have spoken to them, then you have made a judgment based on appearances, and one that may be incorrect.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're human like the rest of us and you make judgments despite your protestations that you don't.
    CuriousMe likes this.
  8. 1
    Quote from Fribblet
    If you look at someone and determine their gender or sex before you have spoken to them, then you have made a judgment based on appearances, and one that may be incorrect.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're human like the rest of us and you make judgments despite your protestations that you don't.

    SORRY TO BURST YOURS BUT ACTUALLY I DON'T!!! Yes I might see a person across the room and think that is a woman when it could be a man is true, however I DO NOT say they are incompentent or unprofessional based on that!! People who do that run the risk of treating that person differently because that that judgement. Tell me what is the diffrence between that and discrimination? Yes I am human, BUT I DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE. Since people don't seem to understand what I am saying, I give up trying to explain, just know that a few people REFUSE TO JUDGE THEN TREAT PERSON DIFFERENTLY BASED ON APPEARANCE!!
    nursel56 likes this.
  9. 1
    Quote from Fribblet
    If you look at someone and determine their gender or sex before you have spoken to them, then you have made a judgment based on appearances, and one that may be incorrect.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're human like the rest of us and you make judgments despite your protestations that you don't.
    That's what I was trying to say with my previous post!
    CuriousMe likes this.
  10. 2
    Quote from eeyorelov

    SORRY TO BURST YOURS BUT ACTUALLY I DON'T!!! Yes I might see a person across the room and think that is a woman when it could be a man is true, however I DO NOT say they are incompentent or unprofessional based on that!! People who do that run the risk of treating that person differently because that that judgement. Tell me what is the diffrence between that and discrimination? Yes I am human, BUT I DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE. Since people don't seem to understand what I am saying, I give up trying to explain, just know that a few people REFUSE TO JUDGE THEN TREAT PERSON DIFFERENTLY BASED ON APPEARANCE!!

    I didn't say anything about making a judgment about their professionalism or lack there of, which obviously you made the erroneous JUDGMENT that I did. /Fail

    You said you don't make any judgments about a person based on their appearance in a previous post, but in this post you just admitted that you did while stating that you don't. You need to take a step back, re-evaluate and get rid of this delusion you have.

    If you're in a dark alley and a man dressed in black with a hood over his face suddenly appears and runs at you with an object that appears pointed and shiny. Do you stop and wait for them to reach you before you make a decision to either run or call for help? Do you wait for them to attack before you make a decision regarding their intent?

    You make judgments based on appearance. You can delude yourself into thinking that you don't and yell at every person who proves you wrong, but you do. We all do. It's human nature. We wouldn't have survived as a species without this ability.

    You may not make judgments about someone based on their ethnicity, but you make judgments and decisions about people based on their appearance.
    CuriousMe and Paco-RN like this.


Top