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This is a discussion on IM injections - divide into 2 or keep as 1? in Nursing and Patient Medications, part of General Nursing ... Okay, I need a bit of good nursing practice know-how. If you have a 2ml IM injection is it better...by samyaira Feb 14, '12Okay, I need a bit of good nursing practice know-how. If you have a 2ml IM injection is it better to give it all at once (assuming non-irritating med) or divide it into two, 1ml injections? My thought process is that one injection will only break the skin once but will potentially cause a much larger sore spot, while two injections will be more comfortable for the pt.
I ask because the last pt. I gave 2ml IM to (in the VG) c/o moderate-to-severe pain (non-irritating med). It really scared me how much they were complaining and I went home and looked up all sorts of things about muscle separation, tissue necrosis etc.
Thanks for any help you can give.
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- Feb 14, '12 by 6spdftwtmIf your patient was an adult, they were a WEENIE. The vastus lateralis and dorsal gluteal muscles on a normally sized adult can handle 3 mL (irritating med or not) with no trouble. If I remember correctly, 1.5 mL is max for deltoid.
Peds is different. For pediatric patients, 2 mL is the max in the VL. If over age 2, then 2 mL in DG is ok, even though I never do it because I HATE giving DG injections. Don't even think about delt on little ones, unless it's a tetanus vaccine.
I give 3 mL doses ALL THE TIME in DG (and VL on patients that I can talk into it).
P.S. what med did you give??
- Feb 14, '12 by CrunchRNDoesn't seem unreasonable for that site. What was the med?
- Feb 14, '12 by AltraDid you also go home and look up the med you gave in your drug guide? (or do the same with whatever resources you have available at work) What do you recall learning about IM injections? Do you know off-hand what quantity is appropriate for injecting into which sites? These are the things you needed to know before you gave the injection.
- Feb 14, '12 by xoemmylouoxIn our peds patients we tend to max out at 1ml per injection (of course the 7ft 200lb kiddo can handle more).
- Feb 14, '12 by IdrilRNIf I'm getting a shot, I only want one and only one shot, as long as it's appropriate. It's a needle getting stuck in my skin, of course it's going to hurt. Some years my flu shot hurts, some years it doesn't, depends on who I'm getting it from.
I've had people covered in tattoo's whining about getting a shot or their blood drawn.
Your patient sounded like a person who didn't like shots.
- Feb 14, '12 by Esme12There are various sources that will say that 2.5 ml is max for VL and DG and others will say 3 ml is max and others say 5ml. I stay pretty close to the 2.5 ml for my personal comfort. In cildren under 80 to 100 pounds I stick to 1.5 to 2 ml depending on the med.
Here is a good link.
Administer Intramuscular, Subcutaneous, and Intradermal Injections
- Feb 14, '12 by samyairaSo far, the responses have ranged from simply asking for more information to downright condescending.
Let me clarify that I am looking for an experienced opinion (or even published literature, if there is any, which I haven't been able to find myself) on outcomes for the pt. to have one large injection (infection control) or two small ones (comfort). Is the potential increase in infection outweighed by pt. comfort at injection sites?
It really doesn't matter if I was technically/prudently "right" last time (and I was). You can be "right" and still have a sub-optimal outcome. The pt. reported pain and was very uncomfortable after I gave them 2ml in a large muscle. If I can help a pt by giving them two 1ml injections then I want to be able to do that with good rationale.Last edit by samyaira on Feb 14, '12
- Feb 14, '12 by JSJones,RNI may be looking at this all wrong but I haven't seen a response yet that was downright condescending. As far as the ones that ask for information about the med given and pt's age/size, those are pretty legit questions since it wasn't included as those could be determining factors. You wanted opinions of experienced nurses and that's what these responses are.
Either way, there isn't a 'good rationale' in splitting up a 2mL injection other than pt comfort. Injections hurt! That's a part of it! If you have a patient complain of pain/discomfort after a 1mL shot, are you going to consider splitting it up into two 0.5mL injections next?
Use your nursing judgement. Each injection and every patient situation is different. The above responses answer the question on how much is too much but its up to the nurse's judgement and patient's situation. Pain is a 'sub-optimal' outcome for a lot of the things we have to do to provide patient care and assist in the healing of our patients. I agree that we should always look for ways to limit the pain but IM injections are amoung those painful stimuli that we don't always have control over.Last edit by JSJones,RN on Feb 14, '12
- Feb 14, '12 by ckh23Doesn't sound like it should be causing that much pain. What guage needle did you use?