Looking for online RN - BSN with no clinical componet.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

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Sorry, don't understand what you're saying here.

Jo Dirt · Oct 29, 2004

now the differences between the two programs are this
cn/isu ec
nln accredited yes yes
accepted by every state? yes no**
clinicals yes 450hours a weekend
clinical testing? no yes
cost of cpne? none 1575.00
cost of program depends on pre reqs needed same
approx 5775.00. unsure
jennifer022368:balloons:

wait a minute. are you telling me that to go through cn/isu the total cost for everything is $5775.00?

if that is the case then the choice should be clear: i would do isu all the way.

Trauma Columnist · Oct 29, 2004

Someone asked about how clinicals work for the UofP BSN completion program: there are three classes that require clinical - two of these classes are 45 hours each and the third one is 20 making a total of 110 clinical hours. However, this is for students who are already RNs.

I'm doing the BSN to MSN now at UofP. Yes, it is expensive. However, by the time I finish, I will have gone from an ADN to BSN to MSN in less than 2 1/2 years. For me, that was worth it. Good luck to everyone.

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

I dont remember posting that well written statement. It must have happen when I was attacked by my 3 toddlers.

Sorry, don't understand what you're saying here.

opalmRN · Oct 29, 2004

someone asked about how clinicals work for the uofp bsn completion program: there are three classes that require clinical - two of these classes are 45 hours each and the third one is 20 making a total of 110 clinical hours. however, this is for students who are already rns.
i'm doing the bsn to msn now at uofp. yes, it is expensive. however, by the time i finish, i will have gone from an adn to bsn to msn in less than 2 1/2 years. for me, that was worth it. good luck to everyone.

oh you go !!!!!!!

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

isu has to be more than that. college network charges $2400 just for the books to test out of the 4 phase 2 nursing courses. the isu tutition is something like $220.00/hr, maybe 200/hr and you have somewhere in the ball park of 62-68 upper-level creit hours to complete. this is not including various fees you know they slap on. and the pre classes, there is like 64 hours. if you are doing it through the college network your looking at 300+ for each study guide, then the fee to take the clep. so you can figure right around 400 for each course. just if you were paying 220/hr for the required 124 hours you are looking at $22,500 already. and this figure does not include college network, study guides or required fees. im actually getting nauseated!!!lawd. this is adding up fast!!!

first i have to say that we are all adults here i think. i was not trying to slam lpn/rn over her post. only to put facts out and question what she was saying. she clarified it and i thanked her for doing so in a private email. now to clear up some misconceptions i have spoken with ec and cn and i have some facts that some may not know.
the cn is a publishing program that has a contract with many different institutions. to get people ready to enter the institution so that we may receive a bonifide degree from that university or college. i.e. ec, isu, uop and so on it is not a "mail order diploma" that is a totally different thing than the distance learning that we receive through the colleges. mail order diplomas are like the ads you receive in the mail that say learn accounting and etc and get a diploma by mail. they have been around for a long time.
if you are in the publishing company's program you will finish and test out of all the credits you need to and then move into being registered with the college and will be a student of the college ie ec or isu or uop or etc. once finished you will graduate from that college not the publishing company. you can even go to the college and walk the walk at graduation if you want to that is your choice.
now the differences between the two programs are this
cn/isu ec
nln accredited yes yes
accepted by every state? yes no**
clinicals yes 450hours a weekend
clinical testing? no yes
cost of cpne? none 1575.00
cost of program depends on pre reqs needed same
approx 5775.00. unsure
with cn/isu once you are enrolled in isu you do have to take the phases of nursing classes which are online but run with the school calendar. anotherwords the classes are fall/spring off summer.
now for the ** part ec is not accepted in ilinois, alabama, california and colorodo, also in washington state you have to take an additional 200 clinical hours before you sit for exam, in oklahoma you have to take 2 more classes maternity newborn and psych and mental health nursing before sitting for boards, and in georgia this is a kicker you have to test in another state and then have your license transferred through reciprocity.
i am not against one class or the other. i was going to start ec when it was regeants. i did not start. now i am going through cn only because i can go from lpn to my bsn and masters in a shorter period of time without having to go to the classroom. i need that due to work schedules and childcare etc. i choose to go through the publishing company first because that way i can do all my pre reqs as fast or as slow as i need and for me that is a positive. where if i enrolled directly into isu i would have to go by their schedule and etc.
as for no clinical time to put in ec only has a weekend possibly 2 weekends. so yes that one doesn't have much time and well isu is 450hours. other programs are longer or shorter as well.
ultimately it is each individual's choice. i received my study guide for sociology today and i will finish it fairly quickly no text book because the guide makes it so i dont' have to buy one. i love it. and its well written and i am excited.
i hope that people who have the thought that distance learning is a mail order diploma will see that there is a difference between distance learning and mail order learning. i know we have all seen the ads in the magazines be a vet assistant in 11 months, etc usually there is a celebrity endorsing the ad. they two programs are entirely different entities.
i wish every one success in the college, or publishing company/college combo that they choose. if anyone would like information from me about cn please contact me. i will gladly help you get to the right person to talk to.
jennifer022368:balloons:

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

I dont remember posting that well written statement. It must have happen when I was attacked by my 3 toddlers.

:chuckle :chuckle

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

I dont remember posting that well written statement. It must have happen when I was attacked by my 3 toddlers.

:rotfl: I was thinking it was some sort of internet speak for something I hadn't learned yet. Carry on then.

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

:rotfl: I was thinking it was some sort of internet speak for something I hadn't learned yet. Carry on then.

Hmm...now that might not be such a bad idea. We can have our very own "allspeak" :chuckle

Jo Dirt · Oct 29, 2004

ISU has to be more than that. College network charges $2400 just for the books to test out of the 4 phase 2 nursing courses. The ISU tutition is something like $220.00/hr, maybe 200/hr and you have somewhere in the ball park of 62-68 upper-level creit hours to complete. This is not including various fees you know they slap on. And the pre classes, there is like 64 hours. If you are doing it through the college network your looking at 300+ for each study guide, then the fee to take the CLEP. So you can figure right around 400 for each course. Just if you were paying 220/hr for the required 124 hours you are looking at $22,500 already. And this figure does not include college network, study guides or required fees. Im actually getting nauseated!!!LAWD. this is adding up fast!!!

I figured it was something like that. In fact, I know it is. I think that is a real racket. The more I am learning about EC the more I am starting to think if a person is going to go through distance learning and eventually plans to further their degree EC is the best way to go. Tuition for me will cost in the ballpark of $4000 (which is not including the CPNE) But what strikes me as odd, is the same people balking at a $1500 fee to take the CPNE are the ones rabidly defending paying well over $20,000 for a long distance learning program and getting a preceptorship for "free". Sorry, that ain't free...gee whiz.

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2004

I figured it was something like that. In fact, I know it is. I think that is a real racket. The more I am learning about EC the more I am starting to think if a person is going to go through distance learning and eventually plans to further their degree EC is the best way to go. Tuition for me will cost in the ballpark of $4000 (which is not including the CPNE) But what strikes me as odd, is the same people balking at a $1500 fee to take the CPNE are the ones rabidly defending paying well over $20,000 for a long distance learning program and getting a preceptorship for "free". Sorry, that ain't free...gee whiz.

More bait is yet dropped. I smell a troll :uhoh21:

Spazzy Nurse, RN · Oct 30, 2004

LPNtoRN:

I told her I had heard some EC graduates had trouble getting jobs..........she wanted to know where I was getting my information from (I told her allnurses.com)

Could you kindly link me to a few posts on allnurses.com where EC students say they have had difficulty finding jobs? I would love to see a couple of posts, since I myself have never once seen anyone say such a thing.

When I was on hold the recording said, "An admissions ADVISOR will be with you shortly."

Yes, that's right. ADMISSIONS ADVISOR. Opalm was right--- you were not speaking to an ACADEMIC ADVISOR. Big difference there....Toots.