excelsior accepted in ?? states

  1. hi all just wonderin if anyone knew which states do or don't accept excelsior college? I think calif doesn't and colorodo is about to not accept them after the first of the year but other than that I have no idea?
    thanks andre'
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  3. by   suzanne4
    There are actually about seven or eight now, just do a search on this forum and you can find out the current states. But remember, that the list is always subject to change and can without any warning in advance, just as we have seen with Colorado.
  4. by   Firemedic7
    I realize that, CA for example, wont accept an EC ADN or even a BSN if you got your ADN thru EC but what are these state's stand on getting your ADN thru EC and going on for your Nurse Practitioner then? I don't know much about it but it seems if they a National Certification.

    Any input appreciated:spin:
  5. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Firemedic7
    I realize that, CA for example, wont accept an EC ADN or even a BSN if you got your ADN thru EC but what are these state's stand on getting your ADN thru EC and going on for your Nurse Practitioner then? I don't know much about it but it seems if they a National Certification.

    Any input appreciated:spin:
    This is the application for Nurse Practitioners in California.

    http://www.rn.ca.gov/lic/pdf/np-app.pdf

    At the top it says you have to have an active California RN license. So, if you didn't meet the December 6, 2003 EC cutoff date, I don't know how you would get an active California RN license. But, of course, you should call the board to find out for sure.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 11, '05
  6. by   Sheri257
    Oops. Double post.
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 11, '05
  7. by   Sheri257
    Quote from 1dreday
    hi all just wonderin if anyone knew which states do or don't accept excelsior college? I think calif doesn't and colorodo is about to not accept them after the first of the year but other than that I have no idea?
    thanks andre'
    To the best of my knowledge, this is how the different state requirements break down (amended to reflect the corrections listed below):

    Colorado: Anyone registered before January 1, 2006 will be grandfathered in with no changes. Those who are not LPNs will need 750 additional clinical hours. Those who are LPNs will need 350 additional clinical hours. Or, you have to work 2,000 hours as an RN in another state.

    Kansas: EC ADN's must work 1,000 hours as an RN in another state.

    California: EC ADN students have to enrolled on or before December 6, 2003 to obtain licensure.

    Alabama evaluates Excelsior College graduates on an individual basis. It's not clear what this means but a paramedic was denied licensure in 2002.

    Georgia will take Excelsior College graduates through reciprocity.

    Louisiana, Washington, Florida, and Rhode Island accept LPN's only.

    Illinois: You need to work two years as an RN in another state to obtain licensure.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 12, '05
  8. by   RN34TX
    Quote from lizz
    to the best of my knowledge, this is how the different state requirements break down:

    colorado: anyone registered before january 1, 2006 will be grandfathered in with no changes. those who complete an associate degree and are not lpns will need 750 additional clinical hours. those who complete an associate degree and are lpns will need 350 additional clinical hours.

    kansas: ec adn's must work 1,000 hours as an rn in another state.

    california: ec adn students have to enrolled on or before december 6, 2003 to obtain licensure.

    alabama state board evaluates excelsior college graduates on an individual basis. since an ec paramedic was denied licensure, some have interpreted this as lpn's only.

    georgia will take excelsior college graduates through reciprocity.

    louisiana, washington, florida, and rhode island accept lpn's only.

    illinois: there's been various reports that they will take the ec bsn or ec adn after practicing two years in another state. but this illinios licensing application (p. 3) says they don't take ec at all either for licensure or examination so, who knows.

    http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/apply/forms/rn-en.pdf

    http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/apply/forms/rn-ex.pdf
    before i make corrections, let me say that i appreciate lizz's breakdown of state acceptance of ec. this is not intended to be infalmmatory or insulting in any way.
    colorado:

    i have been corresponding with the co bne for some time now as they have been very lax in putting this info in an easy-to-read alert format (like ca had the courtesy to do) on their website since making their ruling.

    what they have finally put on their main web page (long time coming) is still not the entire board ruling.
    thankfully, they are not doing it california style, meaning that they are not going to actually ask currently practicing, experienced ec rn's to go back to school and go through clinical rotations to meet state requirements after the cut-off date.
    here's one of my e-mails from the co bne:

    the board approved a change, effective january 1, 2006, that any student enrolling in programs like excelsior, where there is no clinical offered concurrently with the theory classes, would be required to obtain clinical experience prior to being approved for licensure by examination. also, on or after jan. 1, 2006, any person endorsing into colorado will need to provide proof of having practiced in another state for 2000 hours as a rn, if they want to endorse into colorado as a rn, or 2000 hours as a pn, if they want to endorse into colorado as a pn. prior to jan. 1, 2006, there is no requirement for added clinical hours prior to examination or for having worked for a specified length of time as a nurse in order to be endorsed into colorado. if want to you endorse in after january 1, 2006 and don't have the required 2000 hours, you will need to meet the qualifications for initial licensure (i.e., either 400 (pn) or 750 (rn) supervised clinical hours). please let me know if you have any further questions.

    becky

    becky lynch, ph.d., rn
    education consultant
    state board of nursing
    [color=#003399]becky.lynch@dora.state.co.us
    (303) 894-2269



    illinois:

    lizz, you need to read the endorsement section of the licensure application, not the section for people obtaining initial licensure.
    they are two different things:
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    note:
    [color=#292526]excelsior college a/k/a/ the university of the state of new york regents external degree program is an unapproved nursing education program in the state of illinois due to the fact that it does not have concurrent theory and clinical components as required by the illinois nursing and advanced practical nursing act. therefore, it is considered to be a correspondence course which is identified by the act as not meeting the requirements for licensure.
    there is a provision in the act to allow for individual review of applications from applicants who are graduates of such programs provided the applicant is currently licensed in another u.s. jurisdiction and has been actively practicing in clinical nursing for a minimum of two (2) years. the applicant must have an employer complete a
    [color=#292526]ve [color=#292526](verification of employment) form verifying two full years of [color=#292526]clinical practice [color=#292526]as a registered nurse. this must be submitted with the endorsement application. when the application is complete, it is reviewed by the board of nursing for a determination of eligibility to be rendered.
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    [color=#292526]alabama:
    [color=#292526]the language in the bne ruling is too vague to do any more than speculate.
    [color=#292526]i didn't interpret anything more than my opinion on what it could possibly mean.


  9. by   Firemedic7
    Quote from lizz
    This is the application for Nurse Practitioners in California.

    http://www.rn.ca.gov/lic/pdf/np-app.pdf

    At the top it says you have to have an active California RN license. So, if you didn't meet the December 6, 2003 EC cutoff date, I don't know how you would get an active California RN license. But, of course, you should call the board to find out for sure.

    I am wondering if you received your NP in another state and was looking for reciprocity to CA, if it would be OK?
  10. by   Sheri257
    Thanks for the corrections RN34TX. When I was searching the PDA document, I apparently missed the second section. And thanks for pointing out the 2000 hours on Colorado. I'll go ahead and amend the original post to hopefully avoid further confusion.

  11. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Firemedic7
    I am wondering if you received your NP in another state and was looking for reciprocity to CA, if it would be OK?
    I don't know for sure. The application does say that if you don't have an active RN license in California, you have to apply for one. So you could run into some trouble there. You really need to check with the board.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 11, '05
  12. by   Firemedic7
    Does anyone know how these states view EC ADN grads who obtain their BSN from another school, possibly even on campus? I know CA still says no but how about the others?
    This really disappoints me, I work around 75 hrs/wk and have a family, I am not whining, but EC was the answer to my prayers, now I feel like it not as valid, I just finished NC1 and am starting to re-think the whole thing. I live in Ohio where there is no problem (yet), but who knows where I could end up.
    Also, Are Deaconness and Indiana State only for LPN's. I am a Paramedic and just weighting my options
    Thanks for any info
  13. by   suzanne4
    In most cases, still not accepted unless the nurse was already an LPN. They will look at where you got your initial training from, whether it is an ADN or BSN, where you did the initial clinicals is what is going to be the issue.

    If you are asking for my opinion, you are much better off with at least a traditional type program for the LPN, then almost any type of bridge is available, and from programs that are recognized in all fifty states.
    My feeling is that you never know what is going to happen down the road, you may wish to get out of the snow, and seek a warmer climate. If I was spending that much money on school, I would want to know that it was accepted all over without any strings attached.
  14. by   traumahawk99
    hey fire, i've just finished exams, and i'm a big fan of excelsior! true, a couple of states don't accept it, to my knowledge the only states you'd have trouble in are california and kansas. if any other states change their current rules, they'd have to grandfather you in.

    many of the states that don't accept it or accept it only if you're an lpn will give you reciprocity from another state. so there's a back door. it's a way they can give lip service to the control freaks who run the traditional nursing schools, and are hopping up and down about "some internet program" competing with them.

    i wouldn't sweat it dude. full speed ahead! you'll be glad you did it .

    AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NURSING SCHOOL. IT'S ABOUT THE NURSE. I know many absolute idiots who have graduated from traditional nursing programs, which did nothing for them. ever go into a nursing home and see an oxygen mask on a patient, suppied with 2 or 3 liters of oxygen and an rn standing right there, who put the mask on? i have, twice in 3 months. doh!

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