clincial hours for Deaconess students

  1. how many clincial hours are required for each semster for student doing the online course from Deaconess. I realize you don't start your clincials till the 2nd semster so how many hours are there totally and how many each semster. ( is this posted somewhere on their site, I have covered that site several times and keep missing it)
    I also have a question about the semsters. if Summer startes in May and then fall starts in August does this mean summer isn't for students just starting out?

    If anyone could help me with this question I would appreicate it.
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  3. by   NICURNtobe
    Quote from SN3135
    how many clincial hours are required for each semster for student doing the online course from Deaconess. I realize you don't start your clincials till the 2nd semster so how many hours are there totally and how many each semster. ( is this posted somewhere on their site, I have covered that site several times and keep missing it)
    I also have a question about the semsters. if Summer startes in May and then fall starts in August does this mean summer isn't for students just starting out?

    If anyone could help me with this question I would appreicate it.

    Each course requires a different amount of clinical hours. It may be 36 or as much as 126 depending on the course.

    The summer semester is short and ends in July. New students can start in the summer - I did.

    If you have any other questions, please feel free to PM me.
  4. by   LTNurse
    Quote from NICURNtobe
    Each course requires a different amount of clinical hours. It may be 36 or as much as 126 depending on the course.

    The summer semester is short and ends in July. New students can start in the summer - I did.

    If you have any other questions, please feel free to PM me.
    Hi I also started in the Summer and am in my third semester. On my second semester I had 72 Clinical Hours and this semester I have 216 clinical hours to complete. I was told while I was on my last validation that on the fourth and fifth semester we have 72 clinical hours each. I'm just not sure about the last semester but I know that there are clinical hours there as well; just don't know the exact number.
    LTNurse
  5. by   NICURNtobe
    Quote from LTNurse
    Hi I also started in the Summer and am in my third semester. On my second semester I had 72 Clinical Hours and this semester I have 216 clinical hours to complete. I was told while I was on my last validation that on the fourth and fifth semester we have 72 clinical hours each. I'm just not sure about the last semester but I know that there are clinical hours there as well; just don't know the exact number.
    LTNurse

    I had to do those 216 hrs. last summer in 9 wks! It was a killer! I wouldn't recommend that course for the summer!!
  6. by   fry.girl
    Quote from NICURNtobe
    I had to do those 216 hrs. last summer in 9 wks! It was a killer! I wouldn't recommend that course for the summer!!
    I am on my second semester (72 clinical hours) and I am planning to wait and do semester three in August so that I will not have to try to do 216 hours over a summer semester. So I will do my last science (Chem) and some other classes I need for my BSN over the summer.

    Cheri
  7. by   camm
    Quote from LTNurse
    Hi I also started in the Summer and am in my third semester. On my second semester I had 72 Clinical Hours and this semester I have 216 clinical hours to complete. I was told while I was on my last validation that on the fourth and fifth semester we have 72 clinical hours each. I'm just not sure about the last semester but I know that there are clinical hours there as well; just don't know the exact number.
    LTNurse
    I am in my second semester at Deaconess. The summer semester is for the 216 hours. I am thinking about waiting until the fall to complete. Where are you from and did you have a hard time finding a clinical site?
  8. by   mona b RN
    Quote from SN3135
    how many clincial hours are required for each semster for student doing the online course from Deaconess. I realize you don't start your clincials till the 2nd semster so how many hours are there totally and how many each semster. ( is this posted somewhere on their site, I have covered that site several times and keep missing it)
    I also have a question about the semsters. if Summer startes in May and then fall starts in August does this mean summer isn't for students just starting out?

    If anyone could help me with this question I would appreicate it.

    If you look in the resource manuals you will find the clinical hour information. Here's a link for you.

    http://www.deaconess.edu/Default.aspx?tabid=261
  9. by   nadja9
    Quote from SN3135
    how many clincial hours are required for each semster for student doing the online course from Deaconess. I realize you don't start your clincials till the 2nd semster so how many hours are there totally and how many each semster. ( is this posted somewhere on their site, I have covered that site several times and keep missing it)
    I also have a question about the semsters. if Summer startes in May and then fall starts in August does this mean summer isn't for students just starting out?

    If anyone could help me with this question I would appreicate it.
    BE VERY CAREFUL. Make sure you can get a clinical site BEFORE you sign up for this very expensive program. Ask Deaconess where the other students are going. Find out where some of your class mates are doing clinicals.
  10. by   fry.girl
    Quote from nadja9
    BE VERY CAREFUL. Make sure you can get a clinical site BEFORE you sign up for this very expensive program. Ask Deaconess where the other students are going. Find out where some of your class mates are doing clinicals.
    Having clinical support in your local area is key to making Deaconess work for you. So when you contact Deaconess ask to speak with the clinical liason, who will be able to tell you what hospitals in your area, if any, have affiliate agreements with Deaconess. I know that for Orlando residents, Heart of Florida Regional Medical Center has an established and approved affiliate agreement with Deaconess for August 2003-August 2006 (thanks to my foot work and the wonderful Director of Education at HFRMC). I also spoke with Orlando Regional Medical Center and they told me they have an affiliate agreement with Deaconess for RN to BSN students.

    Just remember where there is a will there is a way and I am living proof.

    Cheri
  11. by   nadja9
    Quote from cbarnett2
    Having clinical support in your local area is key to making Deaconess work for you. So when you contact Deaconess ask to speak with the clinical liason, who will be able to tell you what hospitals in your area, if any, have affiliate agreements with Deaconess. I know that for Orlando residents, Heart of Florida Regional Medical Center has an established and approved affiliate agreement with Deaconess for August 2003-August 2006 (thanks to my foot work and the wonderful Director of Education at HFRMC). I also spoke with Orlando Regional Medical Center and they told me they have an affiliate agreement with Deaconess for RN to BSN students.

    Just remember where there is a will there is a way and I am living proof.

    Cheri
    I'm glad it worked out for you Cheri. Unfortunately, for those of us who actually live in the St. Louis Metro area, it has been a nightmare. You would think of all places we would be the ones without any problems. But the hospitals in the St. Louis area won't let DCN online students in. And yes, the hospitals in the area have agreements/contracts for their traditional students, but those students are provided onsite instructors from DCN. Not only did the hospitals refuse us, DCN couldn't even tell us where there were established contracts so we could approach those sites. Probably because there weren't any. They actually were in a bit of a panic last spring because no one could get a site. You know what they came up with for pediatrics? One week with a school nurse - 40 - hours. In the summer. Pediatric contact? Hello? The nurses I work with thought that I was joking when I told them that.
  12. by   LTNurse
    Quote from nadja9
    I'm glad it worked out for you Cheri. Unfortunately, for those of us who actually live in the St. Louis Metro area, it has been a nightmare. You would think of all places we would be the ones without any problems. But the hospitals in the St. Louis area won't let DCN online students in. And yes, the hospitals in the area have agreements/contracts for their traditional students, but those students are provided onsite instructors from DCN. Not only did the hospitals refuse us, DCN couldn't even tell us where there were established contracts so we could approach those sites. Probably because there weren't any. They actually were in a bit of a panic last spring because no one could get a site. You know what they came up with for pediatrics? One week with a school nurse - 40 - hours. In the summer. Pediatric contact? Hello? The nurses I work with thought that I was joking when I told them that.
    Hi Nadjia9,

    You are talking about NR170 Nursing Life Span I which is a 8 credit class and that class address Fundamental principles related to pediatrics, essential Nursing care during the antepartal, labor, postpartal and neonatal. The course catalogue states that For all populations in that class the emphasis is on basic nursing care during the normal conditions and awareness of abnormal signs and symptoms; and that's just what they do at the schools during their heath screenings; they screen for physical and developmental abnormal signs and symptoms . In your fifth semester you'll have another Pediatric class (NR 277 Nursing of Children and another OB class NR 276 Maternal-Newborn Nursing) and the clinical for those classes has to be done at a hospital since the emphasis is on health promotion and restoration. This first peds part deal allot with children developmental levels and how to take appropriate interactions based on the levels they are at and how to recognize problems with them; yes they deal with pathological conditions as well but they seem to emphasize developmental levels and appropriate responses. At the end of the class I got to go to the schools in St. Louis and do developmental and health screenings on over 300 children and it was allot of fun. I really enjoyed it because although I am a mother, dealling with other children isn't my strong area but while I was at the schools I had the opportunity to interact with several children in many different age groups and that really helped me. I'm not in St. Louis so I did my clinicals at a hospital in a peds ward but I wish I had a chance to spend a longer time at the school. In that same semester you have an OB clinical and all my friends at my class did their OB clinicals at Forrest Park Hospital and they rotated between Labor and delivery,Pos-Partum and the Nursery. I did the same here in my hospital. I'm in my third semester (this semester) which is Adult Health Nursing, all the students in the St. Louis Area are doing their clinicals either at Forrest Park or at St. Johns.
    LTNurse
  13. by   nadja9
    Quote from LTNurse
    Hi Nadjia9,

    You are talking about NR170 Nursing Life Span I which is a 8 credit class and that class address Fundamental principles related to pediatrics, essential Nursing care during the antepartal, labor, postpartal and neonatal. The course catalogue states that For all populations in that class the emphasis is on basic nursing care during the normal conditions and awareness of abnormal signs and symptoms; and that's just what they do at the schools during their heath screenings; they screen for physical and developmental abnormal signs and symptoms . In your fifth semester you'll have another Pediatric class (NR 277 Nursing of Children and another OB class NR 276 Maternal-Newborn Nursing) and the clinical for those classes has to be done at a hospital since the emphasis is on health promotion and restoration. This first peds part deal allot with children developmental levels and how to take appropriate interactions based on the levels they are at and how to recognize problems with them; yes they deal with pathological conditions as well but they seem to emphasize developmental levels and appropriate responses. At the end of the class I got to go to the schools in St. Louis and do developmental and health screenings on over 300 children and it was allot of fun. I really enjoyed it because although I am a mother, dealling with other children isn't my strong area but while I was at the schools I had the opportunity to interact with several children in many different age groups and that really helped me. I'm not in St. Louis so I did my clinicals at a hospital in a peds ward but I wish I had a chance to spend a longer time at the school. In that same semester you have an OB clinical and all my friends at my class did their OB clinicals at Forrest Park Hospital and they rotated between Labor and delivery,Pos-Partum and the Nursery. I did the same here in my hospital. I'm in my third semester (this semester) which is Adult Health Nursing, all the students in the St. Louis Area are doing their clinicals either at Forrest Park or at St. Johns.
    LTNurse
    Greetings!

    The initial clinical we were going to have (which Deaconess arranged haphazardly at the last minute) didn't involve screenings, according to what we were told, among other things. It was also offered at a time that was prohibitive for the students the program was set up to serve - the adult learner who works full time. I was also in my third semester, or would've been. They have made some changes to the program since then. You started nearly a year after me.

    No one was doing clinicals at FP or St. John's then, FP was also a last minute thing.
  14. by   mona b RN
    Quote from nadja9
    Greetings!

    The initial clinical we were going to have (which Deaconess arranged haphazardly at the last minute) didn't involve screenings, according to what we were told, among other things. It was also offered at a time that was prohibitive for the students the program was set up to serve - the adult learner who works full time. I was also in my third semester, or would've been. They have made some changes to the program since then. You started nearly a year after me.

    No one was doing clinicals at FP or St. John's then, FP was also a last minute thing.
    It's interesting to get the perspective of a student who is local to St Louis. It's a darn shame that you had such a hard time finding a site. Have you dropped the course because of this? Did you complete the pn portion?

    I seem to remember the local students doing their clinicals with school nurses. I didn't think it was all that much of a stretch. The peds pop at the hospital where I did clinical was pretty slim. I hear that this is pretty typical though.

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