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Any ADN-BSN programs without ridiculous papers? - page 15

Taking my 1st ADN-BSN class. Thinking of dropping it with only 1 week left. 1st class and already a 6 to 8 page paper. A concept analysis of 1 of the following 4 words: Caring, Hope, Trust, or... Read More

  1. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from ixchel
    I'm not sure if you were responding directly to the experience that I shared, but I was not addressing what should be required for entry level for practice. I was sharing why *I* chose BSN, the merits I have enjoyed in my program, and why I feel that BSN is worth it *for me*. It has all that what I wanted from my nursing program. I also very clearly said that this is an experiential testament because I felt the person I was addressing appreciates personal experience, because that is what they have shared here in this thread multiple times.

    My choice to go into a BSN program, and my satisfaction with that decision after the fact, is separate from my opinion about required education for entry level of practice. I believe that is a different topic completely, and I've said many times in other threads on AN that I believe that ADN is a worthy and valuable option. I am a believer in actively and continually advancing education throughout life, but that doesn't mean an ADN isn't fully capable of performing the duties required of an RN.
    No, I was not responding to anyone directly. It was just a general comment. I'm not sure why people would take it personally or be upset by it, especially when there are lots of tangents included in this thread so far that nobody objected to.
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    Quote from nursel56

    No, I was not responding to anyone directly. It was just a general comment. I'm not sure why people would take it personally or be upset by it, especially when there are lots of tangents included in this thread so far that nobody objected to.
    Okay, just checking Sometimes I get the feeling that some people look at this as all or nothing. If a person sings the praises of one side, then they must view the opposite as wrong, somehow. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't giving the impression that my love for my program doesn't mean I don't find merit in ADN.
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    Quote from ixchel
    Okay, just checking Sometimes I get the feeling that some people look at this as all or nothing. If a person sings the praises of one side, then they must view the opposite as wrong, somehow. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't giving the impression that my love for my program doesn't mean I don't find merit in ADN.
    Thanks -- I do try not to "step in it" but sometimes I do anyway. I would've removed the comment except it was re-quoted by others already. I apologize to anyone who found my remark offensive! I think probably I've read so many of these they begin to blur into one in my mind.
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    Quote from nursel56

    Thanks -- I do try not to "step in it" but sometimes I do anyway. I would've removed the comment except it was re-quoted by others already. I apologize to anyone found my remark offensive! I think probably I've read so many of these they begin to blur into one in my mind.
    No worries! I'm just thankful you were open to my responses without taking them as an attack somehow. I always tell myself I'll walk away from threads like this one, but then I let myself get sucked back in...... Ack!!!
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  5. Visit  Shuggypie profile page
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    Don't know if I missed something in this thread, but I was expecting a list of schools, particularly online RN to BSN programs that do not require a ridiculous amount of papers to be written, are there any out there, that anyone is attending? Are there any online RN to BSN schools which still administer tests? Hopefully this is not too far off topic.
  6. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from Shuggypie
    Don't know if I missed something in this thread, but I was expecting a list of schools, particularly online RN to BSN programs that do not require a ridiculous amount of papers to be written, are there any out there, that anyone is attending? Are there any online RN to BSN schools which still administer tests? Hopefully this is not too far off topic.
    *** I have looked into dozens and didn't find any that wern't almost entirely paper writing based. It's the nursing education way.
  7. Visit  MrChicagoRN profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** one can very easily obtain a MSN without ever having taken even one semester of english comp.
    However when writing for school I just find resourses that allow me to get it right then have the paper edited by a person who knows what they are doing.
    So, you're saying you dont know what You are doing when you write?

    Your school doesn't expect you to do your own work?
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  8. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from MrChicagoRN
    So, you're saying you dont know what You are doing when you write?
    (chuckle, chuckle) What a funny thing to say. Don't be silly.
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  9. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from KarenfRN
    From what I know, dyslexia does not prevent one from using a dictionary.

    Oh so sorry, I was unaware we were being graded!
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  10. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from Shuggypie
    Don't know if I missed something in this thread, but I was expecting a list of schools, particularly online RN to BSN programs that do not require a ridiculous amount of papers to be written, are there any out there, that anyone is attending? Are there any online RN to BSN schools which still administer tests? Hopefully this is not too far off topic.
    I'd love to see this list as much as you would!
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  11. Visit  chevyv profile page
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    I would have liked to go for the BSN because I wanted to, not because I have to. I hate writing papers as well. With only a few more classes to go, I have to say I really don't feel I've enhanced my nursing practice at all either. I would dare to go on to say that I feel as though I'm just jumping through hoops to keep a job or find one as my current employer will be closing their doors within the next yr or two. Most places are going for magnet status and they really want that 4yr degree. That means I have to jump through hoops, write huge amounts of papers, and then go into even more debt to take the next horrible class. Jaded much am I? I just feel like the whole BSN completion program should be changed to accomodate and acknowledge the nurse. Why do I have to take Womens Health and Physical Assessment? Didn't most of us do that in our ADN program not to mention do physical assessments on the job daily? It's almost as if they have these holes to fill and money to swindle so they put classes in that really don't enhance the ADN.
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  12. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    Just because someone does something daily doesn't mean they do it right. I have now taken a version of physical assessment three times an I learned from each one. I go to conferences to stay up-to-date on new techniques and procedures. I am constantly evaluating my assessment in effort to make it better. Is that a bad thing?
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    Just because someone does something daily doesn't mean they do it right. I have now taken a version of physical assessment three times an I learned from each one. I go to conferences to stay up-to-date on new techniques and procedures. I am constantly evaluating my assessment in effort to make it better. Is that a bad thing?
    *** Chevyv says she already took women's health and physican assessment in her ADN program. While I certainly agree with BostonFNP that we can always improve our assessment skills, I don't see any calls to make BSN prepared RNs, who probably also took a similar class, repeat it. I think it is fair to ask why a BSN program is repeating material covered previously.
    My job is to respond to rapid response calls. Many of these calls are for changes in patient condition that went unobserved by the staff RN until things got pretty obvious. I haven't observed ADN prepared RNs missing more of these changes in patient condition than the BSN or MSN prepared RNs who work at my hospital.
    What DID make a difference was suggesting to nurses managers that certain nurses attend an assessment class. We are lucky in my hospital in the we have access to high qualiety free CE classes. You can see the available classes here:
    http://www.tchpeducation.com/calendar/index.htm
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