Air Force Made Me MAD!!!

  1. The Air Force told me that I could ship out on 04/20/04 for 4n031 (Medic) Training. They knew that I was scheduled to go to LVN school on 04/05/04. I kept asking if I needed to call the school and let them know. They kept saying no..not yet ..let us work out the details. I am supposed to start LVN school on Monday. My recruiter called and I told him that I was talking to the school. He got mad at me and asked why did I not do it before. I said because you kept telling me to wait. I told him that I could not wait until it is the day before I am supposed to be at school and tell them I am not coming. He got mad and said I set all this stuff up for you. Truth is I am not getting half the stuff he said that I would get anyway. He is the one who kept saying wait. If I am locked into my loans ..I am going to LVN school. I am going to get what I paid for. Does anyone have any thoughts about this? I am not officially in the Air Force.
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  2. 24 Comments

  3. by   fry.girl
    I would finish as much school as possible before joining the military. You are going to get so much more out of Military opportunties if you at least have some prior schooling, especially if you finish through to your RN...BSN would be even better...

    Good Luck...
  4. by   TrinaRoschelle
    Thank you for your reply. I wanted to tell everyone what happened today.

    He was outside my house beating on the door and yelling my name for about 10 minutes and then he went and sat in his car and honked for an additional 5 minutes. When I called him later he told me that he was frustrated because he thought that I was going to LVN school and I was not going to go to the Air Force. :uhoh21:
  5. by   bmw804
    He has a bad attitude, which should may you rethink the military. It doesn't sound like he cares about your interest. Is he going to get some big commission if you enlist, and is that why he is so upset if you don't join. What have you decided to do? I would say head on to lvn school, but that's just my opinion. Years ago I would have said do the military thing, but I am against the military now.
  6. by   New Castle Ken
    Quote from TrinaRoschelle
    Thank you for your reply. I wanted to tell everyone what happened today.

    He was outside my house beating on the door and yelling my name for about 10 minutes and then he went and sat in his car and honked for an additional 5 minutes. When I called him later he told me that he was frustrated because he thought that I was going to LVN school and I was not going to go to the Air Force. :uhoh21:
    This sounds a little bit over the limit. If you have not actually signed enlistment papers, I would rethink what you will be in for. You would probably be better finishing LPN school first as then you would always be able to get a good job in the military or out. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
  7. by   TrinaRoschelle
    Yea, this has me worried about what else he will do. I wonder what he will do when I tell him that I have decided to go to school. He is really scary. I mean he seems really nice sometimes, but it seems that when he does not get his way ..he becomes very angry. I know that I can not join with him, but he does have my medical record. I am worried that he my try to get back at me because I am going to school. He told me that Lackland said that if I did not get the paper work to them by yesterday ..forget it but he still kept calling me until 08:00 PM
    Last edit by TrinaRoschelle on Apr 1, '04
  8. by   Nurse2B73
    Quote from TrinaRoschelle
    Yea, this has me worried about what else he will do. I wonder what he will do when I tell him that I have decided to go to school. He is really scary. I mean he seems really nice sometimes, but it seems that when he does not get his way ..he becomes very angry. I know that I can not join with him, but he does have my medical record. I am worried that he my try to get back at me because I am going to school. He told me that Lackland said that if I did not get the paper work to them by yesterday ..forget it but he still kept calling me until 08:00 PM
    I am in the military. I wold have told his boss. He is not suppose to do that. He i a weirdo or he has not met his quota and is depserate, but to bang on someones door and harass them is a big NO NO. I would talk to his superiors.

    Shonda
  9. by   traumaRUs
    I go with telling his supervisor! This is over the top (and I'm very pro-military!)
  10. by   colleen10
    Hi Trina,

    I would document everything that has been going on. Have you allready signed enlistment papers?

    I used to work as a recruiter at a large Information Tech. company. A few of my co-workers were retired military recruiters. Some were very nice, others a bit high strung like your recruiter, all said when it comes down to it they can use some pretty sneaky tactics to get you to enlist. From being nice, to being a salesmen, to lying about what is offered and even being abusive to scare people into enlisting. It takes all kinds, this person may not be in their right mind, please be careful.

    I have nothing against the military and have a few ex-military and current military family members but you must be absolutely careful when considering enlisting. Take someone else with you when you talk to the recruiter and spend a good amount of time thinking about enlisting before you actually sign up and really think about your self motivations for enlisting.

    Listen to your gut, if it's telling you that something isn't right about this recruiter and enlisting, don't do it. You have a good back up plan of LVN school.

    My cousin is a senior in high school this year, as is his girlfriend. Turns out she wants to be a Pediatrics Nurse, out of the blue (she had never before contimplated going military) and without discussing it with anyone (including her parents) she enlists with the army because they told her they will give her all the nursing and Peds. experience she desires. I'm not so sure about that. I know a few army nurses and they didn't immediately go into nursing education. It took them a few years of being placed where ever the army needed them before they had the chance to take their nursing classes and there wasn't a whole lot of Peds. experience in there at all.

    Now, if she had talked to a few nurses (there are 2 and me a student nurse in my family) she would have found out that there are numerous nursing schools here in Pittsburgh offering programs from 2 years to 4 years, Master's programs, CC that only costs a few thousand dollars total to private schools costing tens of thousands. Plus, she could try to intern and would more than likely have done her Peds. rotation at Children's Hospital.

    I guess what I'm getting at is there are a ton of options to get a nursing education, no matter what you are looking for ie. LVN, RN, BSN, Master's, etc. and you don't have to take the first offer you get. Remember, to the recruiter you are a quota, a paycheck. Think of it like buying a new car. Does that car salesmen have your best interest at heart? Does he really want to make sure that you get the best deal at the lowest price and get a car with everything you need and all the gadgets you don't? No, his job is to the sell the car at the highest price possible even if that means fibbing about what it comes with and that the sports car is the best car for what you need when you really only need a compact.
  11. by   TrinaRoschelle
    This the email he sent me after leaving several messages stating that he hopes I have paying back my student loans and that I can not longer join the Air Force. He leaves me an email telling me to call him.

    Katrina, time is of the essance. I jumped through hoops trying to get
    you
    the best position at the best base. I had to give up your BMT dates
    today
    because someone else was ready to enlist today and I could not justify
    hanging on to them any longer. I get the impression that your were not
    that
    serious about joining the AFR because you tried processing with the
    Army,
    Navy, and us and never made a comitment. You could not even get me
    your
    family care information. That was the only thing holding you up. I
    even
    personally came by your apartment yesterday at 9 AM and no one answered
    for
    10 minutes. I left you a message out of frustration. You called me
    back
    around 9:30 AM when I was at MEPS, and that was the last I have heard
    from
    you. I have left several messages with no reply. Therefore, I hope
    your
    LVN school works out because the AFR is no longer an option. All you
    have
    to do is call, e-mail, something; but communicate your intentions.
    Good
    luck with school!
  12. by   BBFRN
    What a freak! Print out that email, and take it with you if you choose to report this guy. There should be no reason for him to show up at your house like a stalker.
  13. by   TrinaRoschelle
    I know. I wondered if I would be the only to take it that way. I mean he acts just like a stalker.
  14. by   missboo622
    Quote from bmw804
    He has a bad attitude, which should may you rethink the military.
    While I agree that he certainly has a bad attitude and was WAY over the top, this should not be your only reasoning for not choosing the military. If you don't like your recruiter and truly want to go in, change recruiters. Not everyone in the military is like him (thankfully) and will actually work for what you want and not just for his comission. Good luck on which you choose!

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