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    BMI isn't a great indicator of health risk, but weight circum is.
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    Quote from llg
    Why just pick on the people with a high BMI? Why not pick on people who have other risk factors, such as:

    ... people with a history of cancer in the families

    ... women within child-bearing age who might get pregnant

    ... people with a history of heart disease in their families

    ... people who engage in sports/leisure activities that are injury prone (such as skiing, basketball, etc.)
    I understand the impetus to place more responsibility for healthcare costs on the recipient, and don't necessarily disagree with it. But this entire exercise seems like a short trip down a slippery slope. It's easy to hit the smokers, drinkers and over-weight with a surcharge. Their "sins" are relatively easy to identify, are relatively socially un-acceptable and are not protected in any way legally.

    But start down the path of sports and leisure activities...when does skiing cease to be healthful and become dangerous? What about activities that are within one's ability to choose or prevent, such as childbearing? And how about those genetic tendencies like Huntington's Disease and breast cancer?

    What a can of worms!
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    I dont like this at all. what about heredity? bad habits however can be worked with at the benefit of the patient. However, I dont feel being built like a stickpin is very healthy either. I prefer to have some meat on my bones. I found that out after dropping 10 pounds in 3 days after abdomional surgery when I was younger. I weighed only 120 pounds then at 5 foot 7 inches of height. I looked horrid!!! Some additonal weight is healthy to have on yourself...maybe 5 to 10 pounds tops. anything else is just too much. You never know when your body will NEED that extra weight to live off of during a severe illness. Just my opinion of course.
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    Interesting how only BMI is targeted and nothing about other poor choices: smokers, boozers/substance abusers, high risk unprotected sex, extreme sports etc etc.

    This doesn't pass the smell test [BS political agendas rarely do].
    Last edit by kogafietsen on Jan 22, '13
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    Funny how everyone is cheerful when smokers are attacked. No hiring if you have nicotine in your system. Higher insurance premiums with nicotine in your blood. But now..."oh no, call off the dogs, don't pick at my vices." Well, we opened the door and made smokers fair game, did we REALLY think it would stop there?
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    Quote from kogafietsen
    Interesting how only BMI is targeted and nothing about other poor choices: smokers, boozers/substance abusers, high risk unprotected sex, extreme sports etc etc.

    This doesn't pass the smell test [BS political agendas rarely do].
    As an avid extreme sports enthusiast, lets not compare the M&M of extreme sports to obesity, they aren't in the same ball park

    I think there is something being missed in the OP: those with BMIs >30 are not being penalized, people with BMI<30 are being rewarded.
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    Quote from exit96
    Funny how everyone is cheerful when smokers are attacked. No hiring if you have nicotine in your system. Higher insurance premiums with nicotine in your blood. But now..."oh no, call off the dogs, don't pick at my vices." Well, we opened the door and made smokers fair game, did we REALLY think it would stop there?
    yeah that and over the last 10 years or so I've noticed repeatedly with patients that hospitals/ER's/nurses etc--seem to all want to blame all your health problems on smoking (or that you used to smoke)--it's now "cool" to be all sanctimonious about those "disgusting" smokers and their "filthy" habit (soon it will be the same for anyone heavy/fat!). No matter what you've come in for--it's because you smoke/or used to smoke
    Last edit by kogafietsen on Jan 22, '13
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    As an avid extreme sports enthusiast, lets not compare the M&M of extreme sports to obesity, they aren't in the same ball park

    I think there is something being missed in the OP: those with BMIs >30 are not being penalized, people with BMI<30 are being rewarded.
    Actually, at my hospital, the people who participate in the health maintanence program don't get any "reward" compared to what they received in previous years. It's just that the people who don't participate get penalized by a $500 surcharge on the health insurance. So, what you said above is not really true at my hospital.
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    @llg...it's a slippery slope...what if your child has expensive medical needs...?Maybe you don't opt into the "smart choice" lunch plan in the cafeteria at work. You get remarried and your husband has a chronic disease. Insurance companies have far too long bossed everyone around . I know let's just eliminate them...we don't really need them(ok under the desk to avoid being flamed)
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    Out of the UK today I read the BMI formula is wrong according to University of Oxford Prof Nick Trefethen et al:

    Does my BMI look big in this? - University of Oxford

    T
    o make a long article short--the new numbers will please the Tall but not the Short....
    Last edit by kogafietsen on Jan 22, '13


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