WI school nurses to distribute anti-aborition group's pamphlets to students? - page 6

Wisconsin debate: should school nurses be required to distribute anti-aborition pamphlets to students? MERRILL -- LincolnCounty teenagers who go to school nurses with questions about sex will be referred to an anti-abortion... Read More

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    Quote from swarner5
    Let's see, there was MJmoon who stated that she thought we "Ultra Conservatives" only did this to keep a woman from having a right to choose and keep them male dominated (paraphrase)
    Then, Onaclearday blamed it all on Extreme Christians who don't allow freedom of thought and have overly controlling husbands.
    The others against it did say that they wanted medically accurate info and that would be okay, but I failed to see where they had any belief that a crisis pregnancy center would do that.
    So, I see some bigoted comments that would be cause for disgrace if they were spoken against any other group of people and I see a lack of admitting that not every anti abortion clinic is giving "medically inaccurate" information. Unless someone has gone to all these places and read all the material and sat down to here what they say, then it is all anecdotal.
    Not trying to be argumentative, but your first two examples are tangential comments that had nothing to do with the original issue of information provided to kids in schools.

    I guess I don't really see what anyone's personal opinion or suspicions about what caliber of information a particular agency or organization might provide has to do with our all agreeing that we want schools providing kids with balanced, accurate information on a variety of options. If you perceive that as "bigotry," well, I can live with that. As you note, we are free to disagree.

    However, this discussion has gotten me a little curious. There is a "pregnancy resource center" in the next town over from me -- I may drop in some time and see for myself what kind of literature and info they're offering people.
    HazelLPN and herring_RN like this.

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    I am not assuming. There are countless testimonials of women who did not anticipate the emotional afterburn they experienced and wished they had been told of it's possibility. You will obviously not find these on pro-abortion sites because it would not be in keeping with their way of thinking. If you care to search outside of that venue, you will find them.
    Thank you for the conversation. Although we will never see eye to eye, I believe debate is healthy. I wish you well and hope we have both gained a little wisdom, insight and non-biased thinking.
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    Quote from swarner5
    yes, you can have complications after an abortion, which is what they tell the girls. yes, some will suffer emotionally afterward. all of these are warnings which are given before any medical procedure and before taking medication. worst case scenarios are explained so the patient knows all the possibilities, but they do not tell them it is inevitable.
    i realize that some of these places are not on the up and up just as i know many planned parenthood sites are also not giving unbiased information. i know this from experience so you don't accuse me of talking without knowing.
    however, i don't accuse them all of the same thing.

    i agree with this. to give teenagers all the factual information is healthy and ethical.

    as to giving unbiased information, the local pp in a college town regularly hands the girls on their way out from an appointment for a pap/pelvic or other medical procedure, a brown paper bag with emergency contraception without any education. nothing about what might happen if they start bleeding. it is very frustrating for me, a nurse, whose daughter's roommates keep these bags on their nightstands instead of going on birth control. ("bcp's will make me fat" - "if i have sex and don't use a condom, i can always just use the emergency contraception instead"). and these girls nowadays are very promiscuous. "hook-ups" are common as are getting really drunk or taking mind-altering drugs.

    now - as swarner said - this is anecdotal. not every pp clinic is this irresponsible.

    i do like the idea about being able to fund everything they do besides abortion.

    but, if obamacare sticks around, that is supposed to make sure everyone has coverage. so, maybe pp will become obsolete?

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    Although I am a nursing instructor, I am a prn school nurse at one of the high-schools in Wisconsin and

    the Hope brochures do not comply with the Healthy Youth Act, signed into law by former Gov. Jim Doyle last year.
    I did have a girl come to me recently who believed she was pregnant. It is so difficult when these situations arise because no matter what you believe as an individual, you must help the patient. I hope that nurses in this state are able to remain autonomous and not have transient political figures with no medical or nursing background make unilateral decisions that will effect an entire population of students.
    Bella'sMyBaby, ŽNurse, elkpark, and 3 others like this.
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    And these girls nowadays are very promiscuous. "Hook-ups" are common as are getting really drunk or taking mind-altering drugs.
    *** I chuckle whenever I read this or similar. What period in time are your comparing "nowadays" to? I graduated over 20 years ago and you just described that period of time perfectly.

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