Washington Hospital Center fires 16 for snowstorm absences - page 15
When I read the article, I couldn't help but wonder if it had anything to do with age and the hospital trying to cut costs.... Read More
Apr 10, '11 by tiamooreMy question is...due to the dire weather circumstances which prevented her from traveling to work, why would this RN be penalized at all?
Apr 11, '11 by herring_RN GuideQuote from tiamooreI agree.My question is...due to the dire weather circumstances which prevented her from traveling to work, why would this RN be penalized at all?
Why is it insubordination? It was not possible for her to get to work.
Apr 11, '11 by morteBecause, with planning the nurses could have been to work....ahead of the storm.
Apr 11, '11 by hiddencatRNQuote from morteYep, they could have moved in to the hospital at the start of the winter. How foolish of them not to have done so.Because, with planning the nurses could have been to work....ahead of the storm.
Apr 11, '11 by tokmom, BSN, RNSo if they show up in the ER mangled, does that count as showing up to work?
Apr 12, '11 by mommaRN29If I'm driving to work from 10 mi away and my car gets stuck in snow and I'm left stranded in between, will they send out a search-and-rescue party for me? Or will they hang up, shrug their shoulders, say "Oh well," and dial the next person on the list? Silly me, not moving into the hospital and abandoning my house, kids, pets, and other obligations to take care of my patients when I'm off the clock.
Sorry, but when mother nature tells you to stay home, you stay home. That is one institution you just don't argue with.
Apr 12, '11 by Sehille4774Quote from morteBecause, with planning the nurses could have been to work....ahead of the storm.
Many times yes....but not always. This storm was not your typical 6-12in weather event. It was last year when in the northeast we got hit with 2 massive storms within a few days, and their were large areas that had 18in-36in of snow and more in some places, just from the first storm.
This was one of the few instances, that I was unable to make it to work...even with planning. I had 2 days in a row off. The storm started in the middle of those days so it was snowing for over 24 hours....and by the time I had to go in, their was already 2 feet of snow on the ground..another 6in or so to go...so it was impossible do the typical "leave really early and just drive super slow" because many area roads were impassible. TO BE AHEAD OF THIS STORM I WOULD HAVE HAD TO LEAVE MY HOUSE 24 HOURS EARLY WHICH IS TOTALLY UNREASONABLE!
This is a topic that really irritates me. Many have this attitude that 100% of the time its possible to overcome snowstorms which is not true....I understand this NO TOLERANCE attitude is derived from people who call off when 4 inches hit the ground and abuse and ruin the "benefit of the doubt" for everyone..and this abuse sadly will not likely change. What about other times when storms come up quick...or it is forecasted to be a small storm---so you plan for the small event---and it ends up being a major event? I truly feel bad for single mothers who have to find places for their kids to go on short notice.
Because of these 2 or three huge storms that winter..I have been denied positions that I was qualified for because I lived 20-25 miles away and they had such problems with call-offs that they started only hiring people that lived close. Its a shame..because in my area, these kind of weather events only occur every 3-10 years and it's still a 50/50 chance that I wouldnt be able to make it. So that was kind of upsetting They'll forget soon enough.
BTW: I'm the worker that tends to live 20-25 miles away from my jobs but is the one that shows up most of the time, packs a bag and sleeps over. Nothing Galls me more then the people that live 5-10 miles away that can't make it in 6 inches.
Apr 12, '11 by gentlegiverI have had to call out twice in the 6 1/2 yrs I have been a nurse. The first time was due to an Ice Storm that was horrible up in the mountians where I live, but was a rain event in the valley where I worked. I attempted to go in, but when I found myself sliding down the mountian sideways on roads that were literally sheets of ice. I decided to make it home instead. I called my DON (once I got my 4WD truck stopped from the slide) and told her I wasn't making it in and why. She called my house screaming, said she would send a taxi to get me. Did she really think that a 2WD taxi could drive where I couldn't? A letter was sent to all Nursing taff the next day, it simply said that "Weather is NOT an excuse to call out!". Funny, the only ones who called out that day were those of us who live in the same mountianous area, affected by the same storm & icy conditions. I quit that job after giving a 2 week notice. I was w/o power for 7 days due to trees falling on powerlines. Now I let all potentialknow that I will attempt to come in at all times. However, where I live I experience different weather conditions than they do and if I find it unsafe, I will call out. I haven't had a problem with weather since, but make sure I have it on record that it can happen. The Nurses who were fired were horribly wronged by that company. How is it that a company who preaches compassion has NONE for thier employees?
Apr 12, '11 by Sehille4774Quote from gentlegiverAmen to that! Even though we are nurses, our quality of life and safety is important too!The Nurses who were fired were horribly wronged by that company. How is it that a company who preaches compassion has NONE for thier employees?
May 9, '11 by herring_RN Guidewashington hospital center nurses ratify contract
...the agreement also includes a return to work for eight nurses fired during the february 2010 storms and another nurse whose firing the union claimed was unjust.
previously, managers agreed to hire back 10 other nurses who were fired following the snow storm. ...
Feb 3, '13 by SaiderapIn years past, I had the experience of being stuck at a facility for 32 hours where I was sent by my agency. This was on account of a snow storm. I had to work a double and was then required to be back at 7 am the next day. Driving weather was dangerous and I refused to go home. I also had a long distance to drive.
I wanted to let people know that your staff members are extremely generous and thoughtful to work extra time for you in these situations.
It was extremely nasty and RUDE of them to refuse me the right to a bed to sleep in even when there was an extra one available or refuse me the the right to a meal.
I did not know how long I would be staying there. No wonder they can't find anyone who wants to work during snowstorms when they treat them like pieces of livestock.
I have seen some facilities that offer a meal and shower to anyone working a double shift no matter what the situation is. This is the least they could do.
Feb 4, '13 by BSNbeDONE, ASN, BSN, LPN, RNI was almost in that situation as an agency nurse once. My day shift was ending and my relief was there. But nurses were calling in for the next morning shift. They asked me if I would stay and work the next morning, stating they would provide me with a bed UNTIL a patient came. Until a patient came? And then what? She said, "well, you would have to get up and let the patient have the room because our patients come first". I asked her how was I supposed to stay up all night and work all day the next day? Her response was, "maybe it won't come to that". MAYBE?? Of course it didn't come to that because I got in my 4-wheel drive and went home. Being that I was agency, and 4WD or not, I was not on the schedule for that or any other facility the next day, so I stayed in and enjoyed the snowy whether over several cups of hot chocolate.
Dec 11, '13 by SaiderapThey bully and intimidate nurses into driving in life-threatening weather and demonstrate their low opinions of them this way.
Then they are rude to the ones who are sequestered in their buildings during the storms.
These people who work double shifts during storms and then stay over to work their shift the next day are generous for doing this and they should not be treated like second-rate garbage.
A building manager who denies you the right to sleep in a spare bed even when one is available probably has no legitimate reason for doing this and it's more likely that they didn't get spanked enough.
A staff-member who is stuck in your building should be offered a free meal tray, a hot shower and a bed to sleep on if there is one.
Forcing nurses onto the road in a storm is the height of immorality.
Please think of their families and children and give them options that don't involve threats to their life and limb.