Video RN screaming, dragged into police car d/t refused blood draw on unconscious patient! - page 3

July 31 2017, guy fleeing police crosses median and slams into truck and dies. The truck catches fire severely burning the innocent driver, Mr. Gray, who was taken to SLC University. Police later... Read More

  1. by   annabanana2
    She did everything right. She handled the situation as well as she possibly could have. Security did not step in because they almost certainly would have gotten themselves also arrested with charges of assaulting a police officer, if not shot. I hope we don't forget this, I hope the media and the public watch this story over the coming weeks and months, and we don't let that officer off the hook. I hope (but this is probably too optimistic) that his fellow officers call him out for his unprofessional and dangerous behaviour as well. Unfortunately, he makes them all look bad.
  2. by   3ringnursing
    Criminy dutch ... I thought the Po-Po and nursing were FRIENDS!

    What the ...

    Wow ...

    I'm rooting for team Alex. She was polite, respectful and abiding - you know, THE LAW?????
  3. by   TriciaJ
    This is of course, egregious. However, if being arrested I would not scream and fight with the police. No one stepped up to "help" her because it would be of no help. She would be guilty of resisting arrest (still a crime even if it is a false arrest) and others would be guilty of assaulting a police officer or obstructing justice (even if it isn't very just).

    The most prudent thing is to cooperate with the arrest at the time. Then hire a lawyer. Sue the hell out of whomever needs to be sued. That's where her hospital should back her. They should make their legal team available to her. They should express their outrage to the media.

    If this is one rogue cop, he needs to be seriously disciplined and made an example of. If the entire police force is badly run so that this sort of thing proliferates, then it's time to fire the chief, repeal the sheriff, or whatever needs to be done to clean up from the top down.
  4. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from TriciaJ
    The most prudent thing is to cooperate with the arrest at the time. Then hire a lawyer. Sue the hell out of whomever needs to be sued. That's where her hospital should back her. They should make their legal team available to her. They should express their outrage to the media.
    Very salient point but I'm not sure I wouldn't react the same way out of shock and fear. I hope they throw the book at him.
  5. by   slauren
    I applaud this nurse, she did what we are taught to do - advocate for patients. I'm really curious on how this ends but I feel it will be in her favor.
  6. by   elkpark
    Quote from annabanana2
    I hope (but this is probably too optimistic) that his fellow officers call him out for his unprofessional and dangerous behaviour as well. Unfortunately, he makes them all look bad.
    Quote from TriciaJ
    If this is one rogue cop, he needs to be seriously disciplined and made an example of. If the entire police force is badly run so that this sort of thing proliferates, then it's time to fire the chief, repeal the sheriff, or whatever needs to be done to clean up from the top down.
    The article that I saw said that the other officer(s) present with this guy in the ED were advising him at the time that he was out of line and should back down, but he went ahead with arresting her.
  7. by   TriciaJ
    Quote from Wuzzie
    Very salient point but I'm not sure I wouldn't react the same way out of shock and fear. I hope they throw the book at him.
    Ran this by my retired cop boyfriend. He reiterates that it is always a bad idea to resist arrest and no one should be encouraged to do so. The situation needs to be presented to the district attorney's office who can file charges against the officer and his superiors.

    Also, sometimes police are blamed for the deaths of people they are pursuing (if they weren't running from the police, they wouldn't have gotten killed, therefore it is the police's fault). The police may be trying to mitigate a potential lawsuit by showing the innocent trucker had a blood alcohol level. Which doesn't make this any less egregious. According to my BF, this is still a false arrest and the police need to be prosecuted for it. I won't use his exact words - TOS.
  8. by   That Guy
    Well she will never have to work as a nurse again. Holy cow.
  9. by   nmnnurse
    I certainly hope this nurse does persue legal action against all of the officers involved. I commend her for advocating for the patient. It is obvious these officers feel they are above the law. Unfortunately, she would probably have to file a civil suit as well, to hit them in the pocketbook or these behaviors will continue. Most police officers are good people, but it seems that that more and more are feeling no obligation to follow the law themselves.
  10. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from TriciaJ
    Also, sometimes police are blamed for the deaths of people they are pursuing (if they weren't running from the police, they wouldn't have gotten killed, therefore it is the police's fault). The police may be trying to mitigate a potential lawsuit by showing the innocent trucker had a blood alcohol level. Which doesn't make this any less egregious. According to my BF, this is still a false arrest and the police need to be prosecuted for it. I won't use his exact words - TOS.
    That is EXACTLY what they're doing. The plot thickens in this expanded video.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/01/ev...f-this#comment

    They actually ran the innocent victim's info hoping to find something on him. This is all about trying to figure out a way to avoid a lawsuit.
  11. by   nurse2033
    Police wanted to collect a blood sample from a trauma patient. The nurse, knowing that hospital policy required a warrant to hand over blood samples, refused. She was arrested (but no charges were filed). She was correct in that the collection of forensic evidence requires a warrant by police. Good job!!

    Utah Nurse Arrested for Not Giving Patient's Blood to Police - The New York Times
  12. by   Wuzzie
    There's a long thread about this already! Check it out.
  13. by   SopranoKris
    OMG, I'm absolutely outraged! I normally stick up for our men in blue, but these officers were clearly in the wrong. They were more worried about a potential lawsuit from this innocent man getting injured because of their high speed chase than obtaining a blood sample in the LEGAL way. They had no right to arrest her (even if they claim she was just "detained"). I hope she sues them for every dime she can get. It's cops like these that give the good ones a bad name

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