Vaccination fears fuel increase in exemptions sought, AP finds - page 9

BOSTON - Sabrina Rahim doesn't practice any particular faith, but she had no problem signing a letter declaring that because of her deeply held religious beliefs, her 4-year-old son should be exempt... Read More

  1. by   lovthatlea
    Just get the one without mercury duh...
  2. by   RainDreamer
    Only the shots without mercury don't cause autism?

    If you have a baby with hydrops, most likely they won't even live to a point where detecting autism would be possible.

    I'm not understanding. Please do explain.
  3. by   ElvishDNP
    I said when I first became an mother/baby/OB nurse that there were two things I prayed I'd never see: hydrops and anencephaly.

    I have seen them both, and they are both horrible. I still wish I'd never seen them. Give me the RhoGam shot any day. Oh wait...I'm Opos.
    Arwen
  4. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from lovthatlea
    just get the one without mercury duh...

    but that's not what you said. you aren't 'just' against mercury. you are anti-vaccine, as stated in your numerous posts.


    Quote from lovthatlea
    personally i homeschool. i don't want my kids around all the shedding vaccinated kids.

    i love the new experiment they are doing in the schools now with the flumist. on the package insert is says 80% of the kids shed at least one virus for 21 days. lets do the math. 30 kids in the class all shedding 3 live viruses for 21 days...x 60 classes......yep that should cause a pandemic!
  5. by   lovthatlea
    I'm sorry. This is pointless. You guys can't even hear me....its been fun.
  6. by   RainDreamer
    Quote from lovthatlea
    I'm sorry. This is pointless. You guys can't even hear me....its been fun.
    We can't hear you because you're not explaining anything. When you say things like "just get the one without mercury duh" isn't a very informative way to plead your case.

    I'm still curious to see how someone can justify not getting a rhogam shot, but be willing to let their child suffer horribly.
  7. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from lovthatlea
    I'm sorry. This is pointless. You guys can't even hear me....its been fun.



    Typical.


    I guess it was too much to ask for data-OBJECTIVE data to support an argument. Instead of actually making a real case, I guess it's better to blame the other side and bail.
  8. by   sharona97
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Typical.


    I guess it was too much to ask for data-OBJECTIVE data to support an argument. Instead of actually making a real case, I guess it's better to blame the other side and bail.
    Exactly, see my last post to Noryn.
  9. by   lovthatlea
    Quote from cardiacrn2006
    typical.


    i guess it was too much to ask for data-objective data to support an argument. instead of actually making a real case, i guess it's better to blame the other side and bail.
    did you ask for documentation? no. did you ask to read the workshop done by the fda and vaccine researchers? no. or the letter from them to merck? no. do you care that vaccines are hideously contaminated with avl and monkey viruses like cmv and sv40? no. do you think i just make this stuff up as i go along? you just want to ramble about not getting a rhogam shot when i never said not to have one just to get a mercury free one! mercury is a neurotoxin. there is no safe amount injected. it damages the fetus. i can't believe i have to explain this to nurses. you are so brainwashed you can't see the forest for the trees. if you want to debate this then please let's do it. open your minds. unless someone in the medical field wakes up soon we will lose another generation of kids to mercury poisoning to go along with the vaccine damage. so what do you want to do? with your combined knowledge you should be able to produce documents that confirm vaccines are safe and effective and exactly how they work. it should take you five minutes. i don't want to bail on this conversation but my god, say something intelligent. why don't you start with your favorite study on how vaccines and mercury don't cause autism and lets look at it closely together.
  10. by   RainDreamer
    Yet even the women that get the rhogam shot with mercury are doing a service to their baby. Do I want a baby that has a potential of getting mercury poisoning that could potentially cause some kind of damage .... or do I want a baby with hydrops that will suffer horribly and most likely die?

    There comes a point where benefits far outweigh the risks.
  11. by   lovthatlea
    Quote from RainDreamer
    Yet even the women that get the rhogam shot with mercury are doing a service to their baby. Do I want a baby that has a potential of getting mercury poisoning that could potentially cause some kind of damage .... or do I want a baby with hydrops that will suffer horribly and most likely die?

    There comes a point where benefits far outweigh the risks.
    And I think we have reached the point where the risks outweigh the benefits. As nurses why don't you make sure there is no mercury injected into a developing fetus and allow the Rhogam to actually benefit the baby instead of poisoning it. Really it's a simple request.
  12. by   RainDreamer
    I'm just saying that before there were shots available without the mercury, the benefits still outweighed the risks. Period. I just can't see how the possibility of mercury poisoning can be worse than hydrops ....?! Please explain that to me, anyone!
  13. by   Armygirl7
    sharona97:
    "imo agreeing to disagree is not egocentric. and yes children are dying today from different strains of the flu, pneumonia as a secondary infection from whooping cough, rsv and smallpox is back in the u.s. again. "

    perhaps this is a typo, but smallpox is not back in the usa - or anywhere for that matter. there was, this year in chicago, a case of a small child with eczema contracting the rare and serious eczema vaccinatum after he was in contact with his father who had taken the smallpox vaccine. the smallpox vaccine is made from vaccinia(cow pox) which has a 1:1 million incidence of encephalitis, myocarditis, and skin rash. so people with eczema, hiv, etc, are to avoid the vaccine and contact with the recently vaccinated sice that person is essentially infected with vaccinia.

    just for my 2 cents i was a fully vaccinated child here in the us who still got measles as a child and whooping cough as an adult. suffered! survived, with no ill effects and believe people should make their own informed decisions regarding vaccinating their children. we cannot predict or pretend to know the outcomes for vaccination/wild infection so it does untimately come down to choice.

    i don't fear the unvaccinated child in my public schools- i worry much more about the public school child who is malnourished (sugar, sugar, fat, fat), and poorly educated regarding personal hygiene (hand-washing, toileting, covering mouth when coughing, and staying home when sick!).

    as we all know hygiene, improved sanitation, and nutrition have actually played, and continue to play worldwide, the biggest role in eradicating childhood diseases.

    great debate - everyone's so passionate!!

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