US hospitals send hundreds of immigrant patients back to home countries to curb cost - page 3

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My thoughts are conflicted on this issue. On one hand, undocumented immigrants cost the hospital millions of dollars in unreimbursed care. In this case, the subjects of this article actually had insurance even though they were... Read More


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    Quote from Altra
    No U.S. healthcare provider or facility is required to all accept patients, with one exception and one exception only: those requiring emergency medical treatment or in active labor. When stabilization of the emergent medical condition has taken place, that legal obligation ends. Thus, my BS detector went off when I got to the 9th paragraph, and continued to ring loudly throughout the remainder of the article.
    *** There are other exceptions. For example the VA must accept qualified patients and can't turn them away. Even when the patient is known to be violent to staff.
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    Quote from SummitRN
    I'm not conflicted at all.

    Those who are conflicted: Do you have any clue what happens to an you another country? You will be charged. Many places won't even treat you unless you can play up front.
    *** You are painting with a pretty broad brush there. I have been a patient is several countries including Germany, New Zealand and Russia. What happend varied widely from free care (New Zealand) to cash up front (Russia).
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    Quote from Mulan
    I'm not a bit conflicted.
    *** I am not either. It seems obvious to me it is wrong to dump these patients.
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    Interesting... I hear of this happening a lot in AZ.except in AZ there's no private jet involved. It's called their legs and a city bus if ones lucky.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** Lots of people not here legaly have jobs in a local meat packing plant. A good friend of mine's husband is a foreman there. They get pretty good pay, starting around $12 and can make up to $20 an hour after 10-15 years there.
    They get the jobs while legal and overstay their work permit, or simply submit fake documents proving their are legal to work here. Anyone can get a job there but it is brutaly hard, dirty work and almost no Americans ever apply.
    Oh I know all about it. I used to live in KS and it was rampant there. Doesnt mean it makes it any better or easier to take. It makes me that much more upset that they can cheat the system.
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    Who's cheating who? An undocumented worker has payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks that most will never see a return on. They can't file for an income tax refund and don't quality for social security or Medicare. Those payroll taxes help to offset costs, at least for the federal government.
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    Quote from That Guy
    Oh I know all about it. I used to live in KS and it was rampant there. Doesnt mean it makes it any better or easier to take. It makes me that much more upset that they can cheat the system.
    *** Ya it's wrong. However it's small potatos compaired to the likes of KBR.
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    Quote from nursej22
    Who's cheating who? An undocumented worker has payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks that most will never see a return on. They can't file for an income tax refund and don't quality for social security or Medicare.
    Anyone working here illegally who finds this objectionable is more than welcome to return to her/his home country.
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    Quote from elkpark
    Anyone working here illegally who finds this objectionable is more than welcome to return to her/his home country.
    *** It's only the normal, expected and predicted result.

    Free trade: As U.S. corn flows south, Mexicans stop farming | McClatchy
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** There are other exceptions. For example the VA must accept qualified patients and can't turn them away. Even when the patient is known to be violent to staff.
    Of course the VA is a special situation, because it exists solely to serve the veteran population. The US military healthcare system also operates under its own special, different set of rules. However, in regard to general hospitals that serve the general public, Altra is correct -- none of them is required to treat anyone for anything beyond stabilizing emergency conditions and active labor.
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