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No. 30
Old Nov 14, 2007, 05:43 PM

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The Robert Wood Foundation is one of the worlds largest private donators of grants. ANYONE can apply for thier grant. No where does it state that you have to have certain political beliefs or your research has to go a certain way. I have assisted with medical studies that were funded by that group.
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No. 31
from ginger58
Old Nov 14, 2007, 06:00 PM

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We've been at the bottom of he heap for decades. Why might this be? Socioeconomic class access to care, lots of druggies, OBs not able to recognize preterm labor--yes, more stress here and faster pace of life. So sad in a country like this.
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No. 32
Old Nov 14, 2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyrshamarks View Post
The Robert Wood Foundation is one of the worlds largest private donators of grants. ANYONE can apply for thier grant. No where does it state that you have to have certain political beliefs or your research has to go a certain way. I have assisted with medical studies that were funded by that group.
Didn't say otherwise.

But it can be argued that receiving funding from a foundation connected to "the world's most comprehensive and broadly based manufacturer of health care products, as well as a provider of related services, for the consumer, pharmaceutical, and medical devices and diagnostics markets", and where only 18% of that business is retail-consumer driven, they could be perceived to have a vested interest in the results of said research.

http://www.jnj.com/our_company/family/index.htm
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No. 33
from Jolie
Old Nov 14, 2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein View Post
It's in the links above.
Thanks for the information. I didn't see it in the links.

With the exception of SIDS and accidents, newborn deaths related to these causes would tend to occur in the first month of life, which is consistent with statistics and my experience in actual practice.

While death rates due to some of these causes (prematurity, low birth weight, maternal complications, RDS, sepsis, cardiac defects related to diabetes) could be improved by better and more consistent prenatal care, some would not (congenital abnormalities, chromosomal abnormalities).
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No. 34
Old Nov 14, 2007, 09:58 PM
Updated Nov 14, 2007 at 10:02 PM by Emmanuel Goldstein

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Originally Posted by Jolie View Post
Thanks for the information. I didn't see it in the links.

With the exception of SIDS and accidents, newborn deaths related to these causes would tend to occur in the first month of life, which is consistent with statistics and my experience in actual practice.

While death rates due to some of these causes (prematurity, low birth weight, maternal complications, RDS, sepsis, cardiac defects related to diabetes) could be improved by better and more consistent prenatal care, some would not (congenital abnormalities, chromosomal abnormalities).
I think there was mention of the neonatal period (0-28 days), but it may include up to one year. I thought infant mortality was calculated on how many survive their first year of life. I'm not sure; I'll have to look when I can stomach reading it again.

I read through some of the links to the data on the cdc sites. It was quite sobering... like alois said, regardless of our "standing", it is simply unacceptable. The rate of African American infant mortality is horrendous. Without going back to check the links again, I believe it was nearly 14/1000. Good Lord.
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No. 35
from x_coastie
Old Nov 15, 2007, 07:00 AM

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This thread has little to do with actual information, and much to do with the all too common "lets bash America and everything American" mentality.

It is amazing that so many American nurses are so quick to jump on the "America is bad" and "American health care is bad" bandwagon. A simple google search on the subject is all that is needed to show that this belief is wrong. As Kyrshamarks (thank you) pointed out by multiple links, American health care is NOT the worst in the world, in fact it is THE BEST IN THE WORLD ( In patient care) when some one takes a objective look and not fall in to the "I hate America" trap. Read this article on the the WHO's hidden agenda to see what I am talking about; http://www.cchconline.org/publications/whoart.php3 .

Sorry if this seems like a rant, but threads like this are filled with bias and misinformation.

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No. 36
Old Nov 15, 2007, 07:24 AM

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And then there are those who refuse to admit that maybe--- just maybe--- we aren't "the best" and there is definite room for improvement.

Perhaps you should continue reading the thread...


p.s. This thread doesn't say that the US healthcare is "the worst in the world".
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No. 37
from x_coastie
Old Nov 15, 2007, 05:45 PM
Updated Nov 26, 2007 at 07:48 PM by x_coastie

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Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein View Post
And then there are those who refuse to admit that maybe--- just maybe--- we aren't "the best" and there is definite room for improvement.

Perhaps you should continue reading the thread...


p.s. This thread doesn't say that the US healthcare is "the worst in the world".
EDITED by author
My bad I guess I miss understood the title of the thread

I apologize for the rudeness, but this thread is just a deceiving (most countries calculate viable births differently than the US), pro-universal health care thread that has little actual information value ( like most threads of this type.)
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No. 38
from Alois Wolf
Old Nov 16, 2007, 04:05 AM
Updated Nov 16, 2007 at 09:24 AM by Alois Wolf
Reason: Grammar/Spelling

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Originally Posted by x_coastie View Post
"US Among Worst in the World for Infant Death"

That was a little childish...


Any btw, again... that was NOT my choice of title. That was the title of the article which I had linked to. And for that matter, you're argument is non-sequitur. The title does not say America's health care is the worst, it says that it is worst in the world for Infant Death which the majority of us in this thread has disagreed with to some degree or another. As far as America being the best, that's an empty pointless argument. Anyone who says that they are the best at anything must feel that there is no room for improvement, and while our standards of care are not too shabby compared to some other nations we could still use improvement. No one is perfect, nothing is designed to be perfect and everything, including this "perfect" America which you say we are bashing, is not exempt from that fact. So before you start flaming us and spamming us with your gaudy and tacky bold lettering, please consider the fact that not everyone thinks the same way that you do about the world and while I will defend your right to say whatever you please under the constitution of this rather fine and beautiful country, your argument has no base and is sophomoric at best.
I do not hate America or true Patriots. I hate those who refuse to look at facts and educate themselves with both sides of the issue. You rely on your emotions too strongly for your attack to hold any merit and for that matter to have any effect on our opinions that have been clearly stated in this thread. This topic was open for discussion and was never meant (and I have said this earlier in the thread) to reflect anyone's sole opinion on the matter. If you should be angry at anyone it should be those who carelessly titled the attached articles in the way they did. And before you say that it wasn't meant for us directly then consider for a moment, if you will that the articles were written by non-nurses for the general public (the original ones in the OP that is).

Peace be to you and yours.

PS What Goldstein had suggested you to do was read the thread not make assumptions from the title alone.


PPS I apologize for my harshness, but in the future I'm sure everyone would appreciate it if you didn't try to prove your point by presenting information in a false light. (i.e. the title of this thread). Though I must reiterate, even as the OP I do not agree with the title it was by no means an attempt for me to express an opinion that I think that America is in anyway a "bad" country... but I also must reiterate that it isn't a perfect country either. Even if you are the best at something, in opinion (which is all it really is) there is always room for improvement. Please be more careful in the words you choose.
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No. 39
Old Nov 16, 2007, 08:45 AM
Updated Nov 16, 2007 at 08:47 AM by Emmanuel Goldstein

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Originally Posted by x_coastie View Post
My bad I guess I miss understood the title of the thread
Yeah, your bad. Seems you missed the words "among" and "for infant death".
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