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No. 30
from sjt9721
Old Aug 03, 2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by avaritia View Post
I dont know much about organ donation, but...this part of the article kind of disturbs me:

"Experts said the case is likely to raise uneasiness among potential organ donors and could prompt doctors to shy away from a somewhat controversial practice of retrieving organs before a patient is brain dead." from http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...=la-home-local

Can they take organs away from someone who has some brain function (i.e. besides people understanding and consenting to donate part of their liver or a kidney), or was that a sarcastic remark? I dont understand.
Read my post (#24)
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No. 31
from fultzymom
Old Aug 03, 2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by earle58 View Post
just for the fact he was taken off a vent and survived...
then given all that morphine/ativan, still lingered.
double trauma to his system.
what is wrong with this picture?

leslie
I agree. How brain dead was he if he did not die after all those meds et being taken off of the ventilator?!?!

My other question is, "What about all the staff who was standing there when this was going on? And what about the nurse who would actually follow this order?" We do have the right to question orders et refuse to give something that we know is harmful to a patient.

Leslie
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No. 32
from Noryn
Old Aug 03, 2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cardiacRN2006 View Post
The propylene glycol would just put him in lactic acidosis. I would venture to say he was in all kinds of that just being off of the vent for so many hours.
The inadvertant administration of the propylene glycol was the least of his concerns.
Propylene glycol can do much more than "just" put someone in lactic acidosis. Sure it does break down into lactic acid which can build up with a chronic exposure especially in a renal pt BUT propylene glycol when given too fast can also cause death by circulatory collapse and arrhythmias.

In this case we are not talking about a significant chronic exposure though, the 80 mg were given either at one time or over a course of 30 minutes. I dont think you should give more than 2mg/min of Ativan. Valium and Dilantin are 2 others you have to be careful with. Like the lady who died after receiving the 8 gm Dilantin most likely died from the propylene glycol but not lactic acidosis.
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No. 33
from imenid37
Old Aug 04, 2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by multicollinarity View Post
In an interview with CBS News, the surgeon's attorney alleges the charges stem from racism because of the doctor's Iranian background.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...ml?id=3120476n

If this is the best defense this attorney can provide - he's in trouble. A few other details as well.
Good grief!!! When I read this, not knowing much at all about this topic, I thought "the dr. is an impatient jerk who can't wait and is pi~~ed that patient did not quickly die and he (the dr.) had to wait." We all know that behaviour crosses racial and gender lines. How sad for this poor patient and his family . He deserved to die with dignity, not become a public spectacle. As far as nursing goes, if this is an accurate account, that nurse deserves some stringent disciplinary action from the state board for following this type of order.
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No. 34
from Sabby_NC
Old Aug 04, 2007, 06:45 AM

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Good grief this made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach.
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No. 35
Old Aug 06, 2007, 04:56 AM

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Oh my......200mg of mso4???? Oh my. ........all the lives saved by organ donation and cases like these (if in fact this proves to be true) really give the public a sense of "organ donation advocates" are vultures.Organ donation is a wonderful thing for those families that can give that gift.I hope....this proves to be false.
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