The Policeman vs. The Nurse

  1. 0 From the New York Times, "What do you think? Should someone be fired for talking back to a police officer outside the workplace? Are the rules different if the person is a health care worker?"

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...-vs-the-nurse/

    Seriously??
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    About PacoUSA, BSN, RN

    PacoUSA has '3' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Telemetry / Travel Nursing'. From 'USA'; Joined Mar '09; Posts: 3,247; Likes: 2,852.

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  4. Visit  marsy profile page
    17
    i thought this was absolutely ridiculous and was disgusted; i just had to post it. a nurse gets fired because she vented to a cop giving her a ticket. he went to her boss and complained...my first question is how did he know where she worked? second, even though it was slightly unprofessional of her, she was off duty and he was not her patient! what are nurses now going to get arrested for getting intoxicated in a bar when they're not working or something equally outrageous as that?!? being professional is expected in the workplace, but acting like a normal human being, all flaws included, might now get us fired? does anyone agree with this or am i totally wrong here?

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...se/?ref=health
  5. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
    12
    That was a very stupid thing to say as it could be construed as a threat.

    HOWEVER - it troubles me greatly that off duty life can be used as a reason to fire you as a nurse. This is very intrusive and I think they need to hold everyone to that standard if they are going to do it with nurses.
    alem-tsahai, LockportRN, MissPiggy, and 9 others like this.
  6. Visit  adc1 profile page
    0
    I'm in CA. In CA, nursing is exempt from alot of stuff. But, if you are an RCP (respiratory therapist), what she did could and probably would get an action on her RCP license. Anything you do off duty can impact your RCP license and you could get on probation, get a citation (not a pat on the back) with a fine, or a public reprimand.


    Count your blessings your board doesn't slam you at any chance.
  7. Visit  Tweety profile page
    6
    Well, considering people are being fired for what they say on social network sites like Facebook, this type of thing doesn't surprise me.

    I would think it would be wrong for someone to get fired for being intoxicated in a bar, but when you're using your job to threaten/demean another person, violating HIPPA, then that's a bit different. Although, I don't think the person should have been fired.
    Faeriewand, PatMac10,RN, canoehead, and 3 others like this.
  8. Visit  nursenow profile page
    2
    I am OK with her being fired. Her behavior indicates a lack of judgment that makes me uncomfortable. Yes I believe she had the right to say say that but that doesn't mean it was right. Makes me wonder how she would respond to a patient on one of her bad days.
    remf3 and zsbaby like this.
  9. Visit  TickyRN profile page
    2
    If it is against the facility's policy then yes. We all were just sent emails basically telling us to watch what we say about the facility/employer because we represent them whether in uniform or not.
    Faeriewand and PatMac10,RN like this.
  10. Visit  caliotter3 profile page
    8
    Employers are looking near and far to justify their actions in getting rid of employees. There are some things done off duty that should lead to disciplinary action by an employer, but getting testy with a policeman at a traffic stop doesn't fall in that category.
    alem-tsahai, tracel1, MissPiggy, and 5 others like this.
  11. Visit  shiccy profile page
    4
    The thing that bothers ME the most, honestly, is that this is he-said/she-said BS. Provide me with proof that this happened, and I'd take my licks. This, honestly, could have just been a case of "He has a personal vendetta against nurses".

    In other news, when did police officers turn on their bretheren? Around these parts, EMS, police, firefighters, RN's and other healthcare workers all band together. We are all coworkers, honestly.

    Finally, what she said WAS sh*tty. If *I* heard that from a police officer I'd definitely think he/she was trying to tell me to watch my back and not do stupid stuff b/c I'd def. be getting a ticket.
    VegetasGRL03RN, Faeriewand, mskate, and 1 other like this.
  12. Visit  DeLanaHarvickWannabe profile page
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    Quote from Tweety
    Well, considering people are being fired for what they say on social network sites like Facebook, this type of thing doesn't surprise me.

    I would think it would be wrong for someone to get fired for being intoxicated in a bar, but when you're using your job to threaten/demean another person, violating HIPPA, then that's a bit different. Although, I don't think the person should have been fired.
    I agree 100%. I think since nurses are considered easily replaceable anyhow, employers aren't as willing to fight for their employees as in the past.
  13. Visit  diligent-trooper profile page
    2
    One should ask themselves the simple question: What if your family physician acted like this? What about the lawyer who would represent you? What about a policeman (woman.)? Nursing is a career which one needs to be attentive his or her behavior. This goes for how you conduct yourself at the work place, as well as outside it.
    zsbaby and nursenow like this.
  14. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
    19
    maybe it's just me, but i didn't read her statement "i hope you're never my pt", as a threat.
    rather, it sounded like a disgruntled person that never wanted to see this cop ever again.
    seriously...how can one prove what her intent was?

    i think termination was a bit much.
    whether it is fortunate or unfortunate, the reality is that we nurses are held to a higher standard.

    i do believe a warning would have been appropriate...
    and another repeat offense - termination.

    leslie
    alem-tsahai, tracel1, VegetasGRL03RN, and 16 others like this.
  15. Visit  caliotter3 profile page
    8
    I agree with Leslie. Her words were not a threat, and I probably wouldn't want to meet him again either and I have a right to say that. I wonder why he felt it so necessary to complain to her employer. Just exactly what is his problem? I read some of the comments at the Gazette article. He is not known as a pleasant person to deal with and one woman was detailed about how he treated her. A wise person would have seen that he was carrying out a vendetta.
    LockportRN, Batman25, nuangel1, and 5 others like this.


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