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No. 60
from cxg174
Old Oct 17, 2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fridayannelpn1974 View Post
I laid on the floor of an ER here in Arizona, for 6hrs while coughing up blood. I was misdiagnosed with a PE and put on Coumadin. I actually had a ruptured artery in the lower part of my Rt. Upper lobe. The next time it ruptured I was still on the coumadin and could have died. The ironic part was that after waiting 6 hrs , walking around at times to the bathroom etc. I was put on bed rest in the ER. ???DUH???? I sat and watched as every child with a runny nose was seen before me. HOW DO YOU SPELL LIABILITY? I actually had people move away from me because they couldn't stand the sight of the blood I was coughing up. Don't tell me about how great the ERs are. I know you are faced with every kind of drug seeker, homeless, and psychos, but UNFORTUNATLY that comes with the territory. Truly sick people should be seen first! The staff at the window could see how much blood I was losing.
Not to defend anyone, but some ERs have a fast-track area for the kids who should have been seen by their dr but were instead brought to the ER. If you were triaged first you might have been assigned to the more serious area so you could be seen by an MD and the runny noses may have been seen by an NP. It is very hard to understand the goings on in an ER. I hate them. I remember when I could barely walk in agony from a kidney stone how they treated me so nonchalantly- I was leaning on the desk, the wall, the chair. They never offered me a wheelchair or anything. I guess I was young so they figured I was drug-seeking or something. Yep, ERs are not good places to be.
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No. 61
Old Oct 18, 2009, 01:26 PM

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CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas —
The mother of a man who died of a swine flu-related illness said her son was asked to leave a Texas hospital a day before his death because he was lying on the floor, too ill sit in a chair.

Irving Neil Range, 58, of Corpus Christi died in the emergency room of Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial on Friday of a swine-flu related illness, confirmed Annette Rodriguez, interim director of Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District.

Opal Range told the Corpus Christi Caller-Times that her son went to the emergency room Oct. 1, but laid on the floor because he felt too sick to sit a chair while waiting to see a doctor.

She said a security guard asked him to leave so he went home. Her son returned to the emergency room the next day and died....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6658531.html
Doesn't put a positive light on our healthcare system, does it.
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No. 62
Old Oct 19, 2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fridayannelpn1974 View Post
I laid on the floor of an ER here in Arizona, for 6hrs while coughing up blood. I was misdiagnosed with a PE and put on Coumadin. I actually had a ruptured artery in the lower part of my Rt. Upper lobe. The next time it ruptured I was still on the coumadin and could have died. The ironic part was that after waiting 6 hrs , walking around at times to the bathroom etc. I was put on bed rest in the ER. ???DUH???? I sat and watched as every child with a runny nose was seen before me. HOW DO YOU SPELL LIABILITY? I actually had people move away from me because they couldn't stand the sight of the blood I was coughing up. Don't tell me about how great the ERs are. I know you are faced with every kind of drug seeker, homeless, and psychos, but UNFORTUNATLY that comes with the territory. Truly sick people should be seen first! The staff at the window could see how much blood I was losing.
Why were they not getting you seen, why were kids with runny noses seen first? How do you know they saw the blood? I hope you are better now.
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No. 63
Old Oct 19, 2009, 03:14 PM

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To Vito Andolini: I showed them the blood when I walked in. I went to another ER the 2nd time this happened and I waited in the ER for about 60seconds. They even bypassed the check in and sent me back to a room. Just a difference in hospitals. Some are definatly better than others. This was a hospital in the higher income area of town and the parents have the money to sue. I have no problem with children being seen first, IF the other pts. are stable. I was not! HOWEVER - my mistake was not coming in by ambulance. I drove myself across the street. Had I come by amb. , I would have been admitted directly to the ER. Now I know, abuse the system and you get noticed. Try to free up the 911 system for those truly needing ambualance transport and you get treated as if you are not an emergency. I was given the decision to have an embolization proceedure or to go home (since the bleeding stopped after 3days). I chose to go home since there are big risks with the proceedure. It couldn't be done via bronchoscopy, but could only be done via my femoral artery. I am just hoping I don't get the flu and do a lot of coughing. Same artery may blow again. I am not dishing the ER nurses. It was a receptionist who sat and did nothing while I kept bleeding. The ER nurses are in just as much doo doo as the rest of us. Every nurse now faces delemas that years ago didn't exist. Had I know 35 yrs ago that nursing would get this bad, I would have chosen a different career. But here I am and at age 55 can't see my self switching now. I get my strokes from my patients. Even though I rarely hear a thankyou from the bosses, I do hear things like "I'm so glad you're here - I feel so safe when you're here. And I have one pt. who won't let anyone but me change his Suprapubic catheter. I an not tooting my own horn, I am just using these as examples of why I stay in Nursing. It's for the patients. I have some very challanging but rewarding patients. THANKS! LF
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No. 64
Old Oct 20, 2009, 07:21 AM

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I believe this considering I know someone who has 2 children with h1n1. The 4 year old has asthma and the hospital refused to treat him because he was over the age of 2.... I find that disgusting.
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No. 65
from diane227
Old Oct 20, 2009, 07:33 AM

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Why is security asking a sick patient to leave? Where is the nurse? Where is the triage nurse? Why did someone not make an attempt to get this man a stretcher? I worked in the emergency department for a LONG time in one the largest emergency departments in the country and I guarantee you that I NEVER allowed a patient to lay on the floor, no matter what. I don't know all the details here and actually laying him on a stretcher may have done nothing to save him but you cannot have someone that ill leaving the ED if you can help it.

I remember a night when I was at triage and there was this young cop standing in front of the triage desk. He says that he needs for me to triage his patient. "Well, where is your patient". He says down here and points to the floor. I go around and there is a naked man laying in the floor in front of the triage desk. I get him a blanket and get him on a stretcher and take him immediately into the cardiac room. He is not drunk. He does not smell like alcohol. This guy is diabetic and has a glucose of about 30. I had a little chat with this young police man to educate him not to assume that everyone he finds laying around is a drunk and don't ever bring someone into MY ED naked and lay them on the floor ever again.
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No. 66
Old Oct 30, 2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brookenicole84 View Post
I believe this considering I know someone who has 2 children with h1n1. The 4 year old has asthma and the hospital refused to treat him because he was over the age of 2.... I find that disgusting.
I consider it an abominable smear on our healthcare system in the US.
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No. 67
Old Oct 30, 2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Franemtnurse View Post
I consider it an abominable smear on our healthcare system in the US.
Reform of the health care delivery system is in the bill, but standards of care will remain at this low klevel of caring, unless individual health care providers/facilities "pull their socks up" and make it better. A broad brush has painted decision makers in middle management inadequate for their tasks, some of whom may be nurses with adequate feelings and brains, but unable to get compliance from their staffs.

It takes a knowledgable consumer to demand adequate care, and there is much education to be done in that vein. Besides the commercials for erectile dysfunction, hormone replacement, and depression, that give the impression that pills will solve everything. Much of providers' time is spent explaining why a particular drug isn't appropriate for their patients.

The hospital's ED with the policy regarding "under 2 year olds only, needs its license pulled! Anyone with asthma must be treated in ED!
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