Sutter Health/California Pacific with hiring ban on Filipino nurses
- 1Aug 19, '10 by Jane_DiagnosisShame on them!
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- 1As with many problems in health care money is the issue. Bravo to the nurses who stood up to administration for cutting services. Standing up for your personal rights or patient rights come at a price. I applaud these nurses for doing the right thing in spite of retaliation.
- 3Aug 22, '10 by oramar GuideAs much as I understand how racist saying, "don't hire Filipino nurses" happens to be. I wonder what would be wrong with just concentrating on hiring USA trained nurses. I don't think for a minute that what was said was mean that way but I am uncomfortable with putting other CEOs who might want to hire people in their own country that are looking for jobs on the hot seat. It is two totally different things.
- 21Aug 22, '10 by elkparkGo ahead and flame me if you like, but I have no problem at all with any US hospital or healthcare employer choosing not to hire foreign nurses (if it's a matter of a blanket policy about foreign nurses, not singling out a particular ethnic/national group). In fact, I applaud the policy. With as many unemployed US-citizen nurses as there are looking for work these days, I can't see any justification for hiring nurses from other countries.
Particularly in reference to nurses from the PI, non-citizens aren't even eligible for nursing licensure in the PI -- that privilege is restricted only to PI citizens as a matter of national policy -- so I don't really see how they are in a position to complain about not being welcomed warmly enough in other countries. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, as the saying goes.
- 4Aug 22, '10 by HeartsOpenWideUnless they are discriminating against Filipino nurses that are American citizens then I see no problem with giving jobs to U.S. citizens first. It is my understanding that Filipino nurses were previously being hired in mass quantities because of the previous nursing shortage. Now that there is no more nursing shortage and there are so many US nurses unemployed; we need to take care of our own first. I have three friends that are Filipino nurses, and I have no problem with them being nurses; but they are also US citizens.
- 0The opportunities for Filipino nurses have been limited to the least desirable hospitals. This means the poorest patients and the worst neighborhoods. This article appeared to me to be about retaliation for speaking out and not about Filipino nurses per se. They are being replaced to send a message. I for one am glad that they are not giving in to intimidation. Do we think that this would not happen to "American" nurses if they did the same thing?
- 1Aug 22, '10 by stucky621The hospitals aren't discriminating against US-graduated Filipino nurses..they are referring to foreign graduate nurses (including those graduate from the Philippines). The CNA is taking this waaaaay out of context and i don't know how
“do not hire foreign graduate nurses”
can only be construed as "an unambiguous reference to Filipinos." (according to the article).
As the other other posters have stated this hospital is looking to hire US-graduated nurses first and not ones who graduated from another foreign country
- 1Aug 22, '10 by herring_RN Guidei work with many nurses from the philippines. they were recruited in the 1970’s and ‘80’s. all are now. united states citizens. many of their fathers and grandfathers fought with us forces in wwii.
[color=#333333][color=#333333]…at the press conference, cna provided testimony by former nursing supervisors at cpmc and nurses who have faced the discriminatory practices - and hiring data documenting the results.
[color=#333333]cpmc's vp of nursing: "you are not to hire any filipinos"
[color=#333333]chris hanks, a former director of critical care services at cpmc, said in a declaration that karner, told him on a number of occasions, "you are not to hire any filipinos."
[color=#333333]another former nurse supervisor ronald villanueva said in a declaration that he also heard karner tell another supervisor, "do not hire foreign graduate nurses" - an unambiguous reference to filipinos….
…[color=#333333] st. luke's and cpmc rns, many of them filipino, have been outspoken in defense of their patients, and in opposition to sutter and cpmc's plans to reduce services to the largely lower income, minority community depending on st. luke's from soma to the excelsior," said cna co-president zenei cortez, rn.
[color=#333333]"rather than respond to the concerns of the community, cpmc and sutter have chosen instead to retaliate by carrying out a punitive, illegal, and immoral campaign of discrimination," said cortez….
- 4Aug 22, '10 by Jane_Diagnosis"At the press conference, CNA provided testimony by former nursing supervisors at CPMC and nurses who have faced the discriminatory practices – and hiring data documenting the results.
CPMC’s VP of Nursing: “You are not to hire any Filipinos”
Chris Hanks, a former director of Critical Care Services at CPMC, said in a declaration that Karner, told him on a number of occasions, “you are not to hire any Filipinos.”
Another former nurse supervisor Ronald Villanueva said in a declaration that he also heard Karner tell another supervisor, “do not hire foreign graduate nurses” – an unambiguous reference to Filipinos."
I truly believe they are discriminating towards Filipino nurses in general, whether they are foreign, immigrant, or U.S. citizen. Yes, I agree that they should hire U.S. graduate nurses first. But using the word, "any," simply means "all." No exemption.
Many of my classmates back in RN school were Filipinos here in the U.S. They are very smart and hardworker. We all graduated the same time and not a single Filipino failed or dropped out from the program. We lost about 40% of our class by the time we graduated. This is public college i'm talking about. Anyone who went and graduated nursing in a public college knows how its like.
The reason why I mentioned this is because they shouldn't be discriminated just because they checked, "Filipino race" in the application form. There shouldn't be no place for discrimination in any workplace. And I hope whoever is responsible gets what he deserves....being FIRED & NEVER WORK AGAIN EVER.
- 1Bravo Jane_Diagnosis and Herring_RN I couldn't agree with you more. Unless I am not reading the article correctly, this is a case of blatant discrimination and retaliation. Whenever this happens to one of our colleagues it can happen to us. What would Florence say?