Surgeon snaps pic of pt's tattooed genitals in OR..shows it to other doctors - page 3

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  1. by   namaste_71
    Just to clarify, I think the way the patient makes his living is deplorable. I will keep the rest of my thoughts quiet on this, as they are probably not able to be shared in polite company.

    The point I am making is, like another poster said, the surgeon should be held to a higher standard. Patient confidentiality and privacy practices ought to be uniform, not just for who the doctor or any other healthcare practioner decides they apply to.

    As disgusting as this man is, he still has a right to privacy and the surgeon violated that right.
  2. by   morte
    i have never worked in an OR, and school was a longggg time ago.
    But....WHY were his genitals exposed for a gallbladder removal?
  3. by   RN1980
    i think the guy was wrong for his actions, were they proffesional..no i don't think so. do i think he needs to lose his license? i don't, but i think there needs to be a serious sit down with the or staff and find out if there is any past history with this guy, now if there is some, maybe his license needs to be under review. now if i was a nurse in the or with him when he started to do this, i think i'd tried to talk him out of doing it, but on the otherhand if the guy was a butthole i'd say "great idea take that picture.." but if this was the only incident for this guy, which it's probably not, punish him but taking his license for this ONE offence is to much..just my thought on the matter.
  4. by   amyk_ncsu
    Quote from morte
    i have never worked in an OR, and school was a longggg time ago.
    But....WHY were his genitals exposed for a gallbladder removal?
    Probably to put a foley in.


    As bizarre and interesting as this particular tattoo and placement was, it was clearly a violation of ethics & HIPPA. Hopefully he'll lose his license or something....
  5. by   morte
    Quote from amyk_ncsu
    Probably to put a foley in.


    As bizarre and interesting as this particular tattoo and placement was, it was clearly a violation of ethics & HIPPA. Hopefully he'll lose his license or something....
    hmm, wouldnt nursing have done that?....and seen to the draping after? before the doc was there?
  6. by   MayisontheWay
    I'm guessing the guy ("victim") allowed his name to be released to the press?? If he was soooo humiliated, why would he allow the world to know it's him?

    Stupid lapse in judgment by the surgeon, btw.
    Last edit by MayisontheWay on Dec 21, '07 : Reason: grammar
  7. by   ebear
    It's been my experience that most surgeons have D/C'd Foleys for Lap. Choleys. That particular surgery should take 1 hr. max these days (routine ones). I'll bet that the tattoo was discovered during the doc's history and physical exam prior to surgery and he thought it would be funny to share. Not very bright on his part... :trout:
    ebear
  8. by   TDub
    What the heck was the doc thinking? What an idiot!
  9. by   TiredMD
    Quote from sharann
    I am so glad that a member of the surgery team was balsy enough to report him to the papers.
    The surgeon in question was actually a Chief Resident and will likely be fired, unable to complete the last several months of his surgical training, and it is unlikely that any other program would be willing to take him after this incident. It is probably about 90% likely that the last 5 years of surgical training, 4 years of medical school, and 4 years of undergraduate education were all for nothing, and his career is effectively done. If he is like most people who go through medical education, he is carrying somewhere around $200,000 in loans which he will have to pay off without the benefit of being a practicing surgeon.

    I am still up in the air about whether this is a fair punishment.

    Let me just point out one thing: The staff member who notified the newspaper was also guilty of a HIPAA violation, because this person, in addition to revealing the incident, also revealed the patient's name. In my mind this is as bad or worse than what the surgeon did, and it is my sincere hope that this person also loses whatever license or job they hold.
  10. by   ebear
    Very good point, TiredMD.
  11. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from ebear
    Very good point, TiredMD.
    good point about the one who reported, was also a hipaa violator.

    i'm not really too impressed about the baggage this surgeon is lugging.

    leslie
  12. by   amyk_ncsu
    Quote from morte
    hmm, wouldnt nursing have done that?....and seen to the draping after? before the doc was there?
    Eh, maybe. I saw a surgeon do it once in the OR because it hadn't been done yet and he was sterile, so he just stuck it in. Who knows though why they were checking out this guys *stuff*.
  13. by   namaste_71
    Very good point, TiredMD. Both should face some sort of discipline, but I don't know that losing an entire medical career is fair punishment. Physicians in my state have made far greater mistakes -- according to state board records -- and gotten off with fines and mandatory education/community service.

    The more I think about this, I've come to realize ... if the reporter truly had patient interests at heart, he or she would have reported the incident to the state board or Joint Commission. Calling the newspaper was a bit attention seeking and vengeful. I still hold the patient is no saint and the doc's actions are extremely inappropriate and stupid.

    Again, I have to ask ... why didn't someone stop him if he or she saw this going on? And what was a cell phone doing in the OR?

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