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Sep 18, 2009 12:22 PM

Study links 45,000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance

by Agrippa
Updated Sep 18, 2009 at 07:37 PM by sirI

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...58G6W520090918


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Old Sep 19, 2009, 12:43 AM

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I want to respond to this article, but, frankly, I do not know what to say. I am presently in this situation. Unemployed, uninsured and facing bankrupcy. Yet, the fear of dieing from my cancer is not as great as dieing from not being able to get treatment. There are two free clinics in this area, both have turned me away because the one does not deal with oncology patients and the other requires a sliding scale payment of some sort-which I cannot do. The hospitals have said to wait to the first of the year when they have money for the indigent available. I know that I am just one of thousands across the country without health insurance, but I did have hope of getting treatment. My PCP did the intravaginal ultrasound and biopsy, for which I was greatful, but he is not an oncologist and his referral physician stated he would not treat me without guarantee of payment. Medicaid has turned me down, yet, I was hoping there was somewhere else. Well, I guess I should be more depressed that I am, and a couple of days ago I probably would be blathering on and on. All I can say is: To all of you who are out there and working with benefits--DO NOT MAKE WAVES OR QUIT YOUR JOB! You just never know what is going to happen to you around the next corner. Think I will go look under the couch cushions for enough to buy a lottery ticket!
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Old Sep 19, 2009, 08:49 AM

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SCorder,

I have read some of your other posts and I am very sorry for your situation. Yours is an example of how so many working class citizens fall thru the cracks. A person can be perfectly healthy, have a great health insurance policy thru their employer, but then get sick and if they can't work and lose their job, they lose their health insurance at the time they need it the most.

I hope things change.
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Old Sep 19, 2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by S.Corder, RN View Post
I want to respond to this article, but, frankly, I do not know what to say. I am presently in this situation. Unemployed, uninsured and facing bankrupcy. Yet, the fear of dieing from my cancer is not as great as dieing from not being able to get treatment. There are two free clinics in this area, both have turned me away because the one does not deal with oncology patients and the other requires a sliding scale payment of some sort-which I cannot do. The hospitals have said to wait to the first of the year when they have money for the indigent available. I know that I am just one of thousands across the country without health insurance, but I did have hope of getting treatment. My PCP did the intravaginal ultrasound and biopsy, for which I was greatful, but he is not an oncologist and his referral physician stated he would not treat me without guarantee of payment. Medicaid has turned me down, yet, I was hoping there was somewhere else. Well, I guess I should be more depressed that I am, and a couple of days ago I probably would be blathering on and on. All I can say is: To all of you who are out there and working with benefits--DO NOT MAKE WAVES OR QUIT YOUR JOB! You just never know what is going to happen to you around the next corner. Think I will go look under the couch cushions for enough to buy a lottery ticket!
Honey, I just want to give you big hugs! In this, the supposed best country in the world, your situation is an outrage and makes my blood boil!!! I am in much the same situation as you... I don't have cancer or a life-threatening illness, thank the Lord, but I was in an automobile accident earlier in the year and lost my job because I'm still in the process of recovering from it. I am now forced to pay outrageous premiums for Cobra, just so I can continue to get care for my injuries... that if I didn't receive care for I'd most certainly be permanently disabled. And let's just say that if I didn't have long term disability coverage through my ex-employer, there would be absolutely no way I'd be able to pay my cobra premiums. I don't understand people who say health care is a privelege for those that can afford it... God willing they'll never have to be in our shoes.
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Old Sep 19, 2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by S.Corder, RN View Post
I want to respond to this article, but, frankly, I do not know what to say. I am presently in this situation. Unemployed, uninsured and facing bankrupcy. Yet, the fear of dieing from my cancer is not as great as dieing from not being able to get treatment. There are two free clinics in this area, both have turned me away because the one does not deal with oncology patients and the other requires a sliding scale payment of some sort-which I cannot do. The hospitals have said to wait to the first of the year when they have money for the indigent available. I know that I am just one of thousands across the country without health insurance, but I did have hope of getting treatment. My PCP did the intravaginal ultrasound and biopsy, for which I was greatful, but he is not an oncologist and his referral physician stated he would not treat me without guarantee of payment. Medicaid has turned me down, yet, I was hoping there was somewhere else. Well, I guess I should be more depressed that I am, and a couple of days ago I probably would be blathering on and on. All I can say is: To all of you who are out there and working with benefits--DO NOT MAKE WAVES OR QUIT YOUR JOB! You just never know what is going to happen to you around the next corner. Think I will go look under the couch cushions for enough to buy a lottery ticket!

Thank you for sharing your story with us and I really wish you the best. Stories like yours is unfortuneatly not rare in our country and is why we need comprehensive healthcare reform.
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Old Sep 20, 2009, 09:12 AM

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The insured american public needs to be awakened...they are in a sleep world and are uniformed about the general state of insurance in this country. Please note that I said insurance...we have OUTSTANDING healthcare in this country...we simply have PATHETIC access to it BECAUSE of insurance companies!!! Does the American public know that they are being bomabarded by the efforts of the insurance industry to guarantee that they will be able to continue their greedy practices unhindered by this bill to the tune of over $1million dollars PER DAY? My family has been vicitimized by the greed of insurance companies...refusal to pay claims when I am paying premiums...we are currently hanging by the skin of our teeth at the brink of foreclusure and bankrupcy. Is this because we have some crazy mortgage and were reckless with credit cards? NO...it is because when my husband got ill the insurance company refused to pay for ANY of his care...the CT scan, the hospitalization, the surgery, the aftercare...none of it. I changed jobs and got different insurance...THEY refused to pay for his routine exam and lab tests and of course, none of his ilieostomy care/supplies are covered for a minimum of 6 months because...wait for it...it is PREEXISTING. The American people need to wake up...stop blindly believing things simply because they sound scary and are coming from "important" people.
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Old Sep 21, 2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tewdles View Post
The insured american public needs to be awakened...they are in a sleep world and are uniformed about the general state of insurance in this country. Please note that I said insurance...we have OUTSTANDING healthcare in this country...we simply have PATHETIC access to it BECAUSE of insurance companies!!!

This is what I've always believed also. We have a great healthcare system with trained professionals. The problem is with how it's paid for. OK - so the U.S. ranks nowhere near the top in the international WHO rankings of best healthcare - but again IMO that's more to do with how it's paid for, and how some people are shut out of it because of that.
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Old Sep 21, 2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ_RN2B View Post
This is what I've always believed also. We have a great healthcare system with trained professionals. The problem is with how it's paid for. OK - so the U.S. ranks nowhere near the top in the international WHO rankings of best healthcare - but again IMO that's more to do with how it's paid for, and how some people are shut out of it because of that.
True. But what good is healthcare when people who need it can't afford it.
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
True. But what good is healthcare when people who need it can't afford it.
I agree completely with the point you make. But having said that, the problem here needs to be properly identified and addressed. It isn't our healthcare that stinks, it's how it's paid for. The way this is all being publicized by the media, it is being made to sound otherwise IMO. Sometimes I wonder if the big private insurance companies have their tentacles in this as well. They have a lot of money, power, and political influence. They like things just as they are, and don't want any change. Even the relatively modest and conciliatory changes that are being proposed are too much in their viewpoint.
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Old Sep 27, 2009, 11:52 PM

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Like I said, the insurance companies are spending more than $1million PER DAY to kill the public option. Why? Because it means that they wont get to collect BIG premiums from the millions who will be required to obtain insurance. And, if the public option is killed, the likelyhood that there will be significant, meaningful change for the insurance companies is slim to none....the insurance companies KNOW this. They are buying the people a nice "new" healthcare reform package that pretty much allows them to go on as usual with some nice tort reform and assorted other pet peeves.
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