Schwarzenegger Says Nurses are "Set Dressing" - page 4

And the hits just keep on coming ... :uhoh21: According to the Sacramento Bee, Gov. Schwarzenegger had this to say about protesting nurses in California: "They are becoming now more and more... Read More

  1. by   RE Agent
    The CNA is not addressing the issues in the right way. I do not support the CNA.
  2. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Yes. Nurses should not speak up about their working conditions, nor should they expect decent pay and benefits. Nursing is a calling, not a career. Nurses are only doctors' handmaidens; they only do what the doctor can tell them to do. Nursing isn't hard; how hard is it to empty bedpans? Nursing is for women who couldn't get better jobs. Anyone can do nursing.
    :chuckle
  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from jaimealmostRN
    Hmmm, sounds like he's referring to those nurses from the CNA that continue to "storm" his speaking engagements, NOT all nurses. He is "dismissive of the protesters", NOT all nurses.


    These protesters or "hooligans" ( :angryfire ) are fighting for US and patients in California, not just to annoy everyone around them. Like another poster stated, being quiet and lady (gentleman)-like has gotten us nowhere. And when this "governator" is dissmissive of the protesters, he is being dissmissive of YOU, saying your job doesn't matter, YOU are set-dressing, YOUR ability to provide safe care to patients isn't important enough to his agenda. Make no mistake, his off-color comments are directed at an entire profession, which he sees as unimportant, not just an outspoken group of protesters. Worst of all he is basically telling his constituants (sp) that their health and safety within California's health care systems is not worth his time.

    Speaking of the original article and what it stated, I disagree that when he speaks of the nurses who are protesting he is speaking of all of us. I just don't see it that way. I think he is being specific. JMO . . .

    People can call him gross in a speedo (any guy is gross in a speedo) . . I'm all for free speech. But you cannot talk out of both sides of your mouth . . . protest and disrupt . .. . then when he responds "he's being mean, it isn't fair, he doesn't have any respect for me", . .. .and then call him names. That isn't the kind of feminism I grew up believing in.

    I think you are missing my point . . .. women need to stop acting like whiney babies when someone speaks tough words to them. That is what drives me crazy.

    I'm not talking about the ratios or lift team stuff. Just the hypocrisy.

    steph (my computer isn't working well so I can't access the banging my head on the brick wall smilie)
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Feb 28, '05 : Reason: Syntax didn't make sense
  4. by   NoDayButToday
    I'm still a little confused as to what all this 'ruckus' (love that word) is about. What's going on? Can someone Please give me a brief synopsis? Whatever it is...I SUPPORT OUR NURSES! "HOLLA TO THE ONE'S WHO DARE TO CARE!" Thanks
  5. by   begalli
    I think the level of reaction from the CNA is directly proportionate to the absurdity of the governor. I don't think Arnold WANTS to open a dialogue with the nurses. Doing so would hurt his backing by HCA.

    What really rubs me wrong here is that the protesting nurses are being labeled "inappropriate" (for lack of a better term). What the heck is appropriate? Where it not for the protestors, this would not be in the news. It's Arnold's reaction to the protestors that is inappropriate and unprofessional and downright minimizing and rude.

    Firefighters protest following the call off of body searches after 9-11.

    Police officers protest for a fair contract.

    Doctors protest for malpractice reform.

    Those who believe the nurses protesting is wrong, do you also believe that these examples of the male-dominated profession's protesting is wrong?

    I say GO NURSE PROTESTORS! Stop traffic. Make noise. Interrupt business as usual. This is a life and death issue for not only nurses and patients in California, but across the nation.

    Arnold is shooting himself in the foot left and right. His most recent example of self-destruction: publicly saying his steriod use during his body building days was not a big deal and he doesn't feel his use of steroids was wrong. He vetoed a bill that would require school sports coaches to teach the dangers of steroid use?!

    Pretty soon, people will start seeing this guy for what he really is and not taking anything he does or says politically with any amount of seriousness.
    Last edit by begalli on Mar 1, '05
  6. by   Spidey's mom
    I also think Arnold is against unions . . not nurses individually.

    I'm not a big union fan myself.

    I think the ratio of 1:6 was a great thing. 1:5 would be great too - but I live in a rural area where there aren't many nurses and we have trouble meeting those ratios at times. Life isn't perfect or fair.

    steph
  7. by   Sheri257
    Quote from NoDayButToday
    I'm still a little confused as to what all this 'ruckus' (love that word) is about. What's going on? Can someone Please give me a brief synopsis? Whatever it is...I SUPPORT OUR NURSES! "HOLLA TO THE ONE'S WHO DARE TO CARE!" Thanks
    California enacted the first ratio law in the country. Basically, it forced the hospitals to assign only six patients per RN. Obviously, it was a landmark law because many RNs get up to 12 patients in other states.

    The 1:6 ratio was scheduled to go down to the 1:5 in January. Schwarzenegger stopped it with an emergency regulation that circumvents the law.

    CNA has filed suit and, basically, their protesters have been following him everywhere. Much drama has ensued, mostly from Schwarzenegger's comments on the issue.

    He has said protesting nurses are special interests and he kicks their butts. A nurse was detained by his security detail at a movie benefit due to alleged security concerns. And now, of course, he's made the movie setting dressing comment, which is the topic of this thread.

  8. by   Sheri257
    Quote from stevielynn
    I also think Arnold is against unions . . not nurses individually.

    I'm not a big union fan myself.

    I think the ratio of 1:6 was a great thing. 1:5 would be great too - but I live in a rural area where there aren't many nurses and we have trouble meeting those ratios at times. Life isn't perfect or fair.

    steph
    Steph, this isn't so much directed at you personally, but I find this extremely frustrating. I just don't understand it. Even people who dislike unions always say they love the ratio law. Yet, they're not willing to support the union who made their lives easier.

    50,000 union members paid dues for years so you could get ratios. And those union members are still paying dues so you can benefit. They successfully defended the ratio law when the hospital industry took it to court. They're defending your ratios now.

    Yet, as we can see on this board, there are RNs who complain about CNA doing this or that ... and many of them have never contributed one cent to the cause. They reap all the rewards and benefits, and then have the audacity to complain about what CNA is doing.

    I really wish people would show some appreciation for CNA, instead of complaining all the time. It really makes me angry.

    :angryfire
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Feb 28, '05
  9. by   begalli
    I might add that while the vast majority of protestors are with the CNA, many nurses who are not CNA members are joing the forces of the CNA in this quest that is for ALL nurses EVERYWHERE.

    My union, that is completely separate and different from CNA, agrees with CNA and sees the governor for what he is and what he's doing.
    Last edit by begalli on Feb 28, '05
  10. by   starshinely
    I voted for Ahhnold and now I'm sorry I did. He is royally screwing over nurses! Special interests are we? How many nurses are in this state? I really want to see him get ill and need to be treated and for the nurses to stand around in the hosptial, not treating him, saying, "Oh, we'll I'm just Set Dressing, I have no importance." Watch him bleed out and then he'd be so sorry! It was only a few months ago that his wife was at St Luke's (or other) hospital opening a new wing where she had their four children. Hopefully she has more heart and cares than he does. I am all for the CNA and now wish Gray Davis was back, only because he stood up for us nurses and our BRN. Screw Ahhnold!
  11. by   fergus51
    I don't think this one comment necessarily would influence my opinion of Ahnold, but it's part of a pattern. The lift teams, the ratios, the BRN.... Ah-nold is not a supporter of nurses.
  12. by   KarafromPhilly
    Quote from lizz
    Steph, this isn't so much directed at you personally, but I find this extremely frustrating. I just don't understand it. Even people who dislike unions always say they love the ratio law. Yet, they're not willing to support the union who made their lives easier.

    50,000 union members paid dues for years so you could get ratios. And those union members are still paying dues so you can benefit. They successfully defended the ratio law when the hospital industry took it to court. They're defending your ratios now.

    Yet, as we can see on this board, there are RNs who complain about CNA doing this or that ... and many of them have never contributed one cent to the cause. They reap all the rewards and benefits, and then have the audacity to complain about what CNA is doing.

    I really wish people would show some appreciation for CNA, instead of complaining all the time. It really makes me angry.

    :angryfire
    I totally agree. IMHO, the only thing being "nice" has ever gotten nurses is a pat on the head from management.
  13. by   AussieKylie
    I dont understand why he is able to be governor of California. He makes me sick.

    A very arrogant pig headed man. So what will happen when he goes to hospital and needs care? He will need to rethink his comments. :angryfire

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