Schwarzenegger Says Nurses are "Set Dressing" - page 25

And the hits just keep on coming ... :uhoh21: According to the Sacramento Bee, Gov. Schwarzenegger had this to say about protesting nurses in California: "They are becoming now more and more... Read More

  1. by   begalli
    Yes, imperial. Infection control and the lack of the most common sense preventative measures really strikes a chord with me as well.

    I know this is COMPLETELY off topic, but last night as the radiology tech was getting the portable chest x-rays of my two ICU patients I had to ASK HER to change her gloves between the two patients!! Now imagine the nurses who don't notice stuff like this or don't speak up.

    This infuriates me! I did leave a note for my NM - we'll deal with it Monday, but I cringe when I think about how many patients will be exposed to a pair of dirty gloves in the interim? This tech goes from bed to bed and room to room through two very large ICU's every night.
  2. by   Sheri257
    Quote from stevielynn
    it drives me a little nuts that people mistakenly attribute things to people . .like the title to this thread "schwarznegger says nurses are "set dressing".
    and, as i previously tried to explain, i originally was trying to keep the title short due to space constraints. but, after the complaints, i did add "protesting" to the title but, for whatever reason, it doesn't show up on the main title. it changes the header above the original post (which i already did a couple of months ago, check it out) but, unfortunately, that doesn't change the main title.

    if you have a complaint, talk to the moderators because, i have tried to change the title to what you've suggested. maybe they can change it because i can't.

    if you don't believe me, try to go back and edit a title on an old thread you've previously posted. you'll see what i mean. it will change the title above the original post but won't change the main title.

    the fact that schwarzenegger is referring to protesting nurses is in the top line. what else can i do without more title editing options?

    Last edit by Sheri257 on May 9, '05
  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from lizz
    And, as I previously tried to explain, I originally was trying to keep the title short due to space constraints. But, after the complaints, I DID add "protesting" to the title but, for whatever reason, it doesn't show up on the main title. It changes the header above the original post (which I already did a couple of months ago, check it out) but, unfortunately, that doesn't change the main title.

    If you have a complaint, talk to the moderators because, I have tried to change the title to what you've suggested. Maybe they can change it because I can't.

    If you don't believe me, try to go back and edit a title on an old thread you've previously posted. You'll see what I mean. It will change the title above the original post but won't change the main title.

    The fact that Schwarzenegger is referring to protesting nurses is in the top line. What else can I do without more title editing options?


    Hey Lizz - nothing to go to the mods about - it has been discussed here already, folks don't agree with me, that's ok.

    No problems, really.

    steph
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from imperial
    I can agree with a little of what everyone is stating. I become annoyed when I think that Arnie 1) did vetoe the bill that would have made hospitals publically disclose infection control rates and, 2) staff ratio bill. Of course, I do NOT get it. If infection rates were to be disclosed to the public, would it not make hospitals more accountable as well as having nursing staff and OTHER staff practice better infection control. I continually observe staff (not specifically nurses) wearing the same pair of gloves the entire day, transporting patients from here to there, never changing gloves. Is there that much ignorance to why one wears gloves or is there just no appreciation for infection control? I do not get it. And, I agree that when anyone in Arnie's family needs care they probably do get private nurses. So, what is the answer, that is what I want to know. I made a suggestion to a hospital administrator and VP of nursing of how, in my mind, infection control rates would drop.. Here it is..

    1. show nursing staff and OTHER staff how much money is spent when patiens acquire an infection in the hospital, or have to return shortly after being discharged due to an infection.
    2. show staff the number of deaths as a direct result of infections
    3. have a family member or patient who has experienced the devastating effects of an acquired hospital/healthcare infection talk to staff. How this can affect an entire family emotionally and psychologically.
    4. AND.............tell staff that if they get the infection rates down they will get a reward/bonus/ call it what you like.. but let those who work hard reep the reward... It is simple and easy enough. kinda like a pay for performance.

    So, did the hospital listen NO> I found this interesting considering this larger hospital has a huge infection rate for inpt. So, let's keep transmitting infections and those nast pathogens from one place to another.. Let's watch them crawl all over patients and tables etc.. Hope we never have to go into the hospital or a loved one .. it is DANGEROUS>>>>>>>>>>.
    The hospitals (and Governor) have put more energy and time into fighting this ratio law from being enforced. If they put that much into lawfully meeting it, and into lowering infection rates, we would all be much better off. But that is not good business for those who need to keep their pockets lined. The governor is listening to THEM, not those on the front lines, as usual.

    We can argue on and on and on about the sematics; ("set dressing", "girly-men", and just who the "special interests" are, etc.)-----but the facts don't change. The health of the people of California is not at all on the Governor's radar screen. Why should it be? He won't be affected by the problems created in his wake, fighting the lawful enforcement of nurse-patient ratios. Nor would all his special interest lobbyists.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on May 9, '05
  5. by   DiegoACNP
    first post alert

    ahhnold and his politics... speaking of politics, here's some trivia:

    politics... from the greek , "poli-" meaning "many", and, "tics" meaning

    "blood sucking little insects"...


    "why is being "a good nurse" so frequently in direct opposition to being "a good employee"?

  6. by   Rudedog2308
    what exactly does mr. swarzennegger stand to gain from depriving us nurses and our patients of quality, timely and safe care? all i want is to be able to go to work and take good care of the patients in my charge, give them what they deserve. is he getting some kind of kickback? please enlighten this "set dresser".:stone

  7. by   Rudedog2308
    wake up steph
  8. by   Rudedog2308
    Hospitals in the red? Risk of closing? You gotta be kidding me! What do you think Hospital Administrators are paid? If you guessed "too much" you are, in my opinion: Right! At our facility we have docs leaving left and right because of the care given to their patients or should I say lack of care. Hmm, wonder why this is?? NOT! Cut out so many "Chiefs" and get us more happy "Indians".
  9. by   Iwanna-B-a-Nurse
    Thanks Lizz for posting the article!
  10. by   mrarn
    why is mr. swan hated the nurses in california. someday he will need the nurses too.
  11. by   Sheri257
    This thread is nearly a year old ...

    Since Schwarzenegger made these comments, the union defeated all of his propositions and attempts to roll back ratios in court.

    Schwarzenegger has now dropped his ratio fight all together and has now extended an olive branch to nurses.

    Just FYI.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jan 1, '06
  12. by   nebb
    Is it really such a big deal? Why let yourselves get so worked up over a political issue?
  13. by   juliebean4u
    I LIVE for the day that Arnie-babe has his first major hospitalization after such a puny-minded comment. I thought steroids only made a man's pee-pee smaller, not his mind as well!!! I will be watching the media for any hospitalizations, and hope that the nurses caring for him remember him saying this, do their usual awesome job, then make him eat every one of his words. I only wish I could be there to scare the bejeebers out of him by telling him right before a complicated nursing procedure, "Now don't worry....I haven't actually done this before but we rehearsed it in acting class...."

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