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No. 10
from tencat
Old Oct 29, 2009, 09:58 AM

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So sad. Can't say I'm surprised, however.....
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No. 11
Old Oct 29, 2009, 10:37 AM

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"they treated her like a princess" Well of course they are gonna try to fool you !!! I dont think they digged deep enough nor was her situation followed closely .
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No. 12
from eriksoln
Old Oct 29, 2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicWoman View Post
the child died in spite of their efforts to get her help. This is a sad, sad, sad story and those nurses are probably running through the situation in their heads, trying to think if there was anything else they could have done:

The school nurse suspected Charleeni Ferreira was being abused at home, but the girl told a doctor at St. Christopher's Hospital that her family treated her "like a princess."

When questions were raised about her injuries, Charleeni and her parents had ready, although sometimes conflicting, explanations.

The welts on her hand? She accidentally stabbed herself with a pencil in the dark, the girl said. The torn toenail? She said a pipe fell on her foot. Her stepmother said it was an ingrown toenail. Blood tests revealed she was anemic, so there was even a reason for the black-and-blue marks.

Child-welfare workers eventually became so convinced that the family was not abusing Charleeni that they advised the family to contact a legal-aid agency if the school nurse continued to lodge complaints.

Full story at:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_...re_hidden.html
In english, that means the child-welfare workers.........who were probably overloaded with many many cases they felt warranted more attention............told the parents to send a message to the nurse that basically said "Leave us a lone". Leave us alone applying to the parents and social workers alike.

Stories like this are becoming more and more common. As facilities/communities make cuts to Social Services, Police Forces, Fire Fighter forces.............HOSPITALS, there is less and less help to right the wrongs about us.

In the town I was living in when I went to nursing school, all but two police force jobs were reverted to part time. The only people interested in filling them were younger kids who went to the army for 2/3 years right out of HS and now were interested in joining the police force. I had no problem with the officers being young, most of them were gentlemen and very dedicated. There also were the ones who were not........drove around in the cop car talking to local girls all day. You could drive by them doing 75mph in the 35mph zone.........and, if there was a pretty girl standing in their window chatting with them, they'd act like they hadn't seen it. These types were the ones who stayed. The more respectable ones moved onto full time positions in other counties or left the force. End result........violence in the schools picked up significantly, burglaries increased and MVAs became commonplace.

Its the sign of the times. Take a look at some of the other threads. A physician getting stabbed in this one, a family member assaulting a nurse in that one. Yet, we pay excessive taxes to build sports stadiums and other non necessities. Its only going to get worse.
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No. 13
Old Oct 29, 2009, 07:03 PM

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As a school nurse.....I have done many CPS reports over the years. A lot of 12-15 year olds pregnant by adult men (often family members). Next year or so same girl would be pregnant again often by same man!!

All sorts of physical abuse, medical neglect. Case workers are overworked and the law is on the side of the parent. These babies just slip through the cracks. Sad, sad, sad world!

It gets frustrating but you just keep trying to advocate for the kids. Maybe there is one that you will actually help and that makes it all worth it.
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No. 14
from leslie :-D
Old Oct 29, 2009, 09:46 PM

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i am just so overcome.

the poor, innocent girl was doomed from the time she was born.
being taken from her (dying?) bio mother, and goodness only knows what she witnessed in mom/dad's relationship...
and then to be tortured from thereonin.
it's just too, too much.

i'm sorry, but my heart is relieved that she is no longer here on earth.
it is truly a blessing.

now you really are God's princess, my sweet charleeni...

leslie
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No. 15
Old Oct 31, 2009, 10:58 PM

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I hope there are lots of procedural and policy changes because of this tragedy. It's not likely, but I can hope.
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No. 16
Old Oct 31, 2009, 11:09 PM

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Not wanting to be the bad guy, but could they have been right and the nurses were wrong? I mean we are not trained in that like they are. That is why we report it to them and they look into it.

Even when we think its one thing it can turn out to be something totaly different from what we thought it was. So just maybe it was what they said it was and your beating yourself up over something that did not happen.

Just a thought was all.
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No. 17
Old Nov 01, 2009, 06:56 AM

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I was a substitute school nurse briefly. A child had a grand mal seizure and fell off the jungle gym. Principal got me...I looked out the window and called rescue before I went outside. Principal said We never call rescue. We call the parents. Are the parents EMTs? Do they have xray vision? I was not going to attempt to move the poor kid on my own. There were obvious orthopedic deformities. This was in a 'nice' school in a small town.
The school nurse is sometimes a kid's only access to any kind of medical care. This story is tragic. How ironic, however, the name of the elementary school: Clara Barton.
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No. 18
Old Nov 02, 2009, 06:35 AM

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I was a substitute school nurse briefly. A child had a grand mal seizure and fell off the jungle gym. Principal got me...I looked out the window and called rescue before I went outside. Principal said We never call rescue. We call the parents. Are the parents EMTs? Do they have xray vision? I was not going to attempt to move the poor kid on my own. There were obvious orthopedic deformities. This was in a 'nice' school in a small town.
The school nurse is sometimes a kid's only access to any kind of medical care. This story is tragic. How ironic, however, the name of the elementary school: Clara Barton.
Why did he not want to call 911?

Did 911 come? What was the result for child and for you, for school?

Did you catch heat for calling?
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No. 19
Old Nov 02, 2009, 06:37 AM

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Not wanting to be the bad guy, but could they have been right and the nurses were wrong? I mean we are not trained in that like they are. That is why we report it to them and they look into it.

Even when we think its one thing it can turn out to be something totaly different from what we thought it was. So just maybe it was what they said it was and your beating yourself up over something that did not happen.

Just a thought was all.
True, sometimes it's not what we think. In this case, since she's dead, it seems likely that it was abuse, per Coroner, right?
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