School Nurse Sues Over Being Fired For Taking Student for Pregnancy Test And Abortifa - page 5

BANGOR, Maine, May 4, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - School Administrative District 27, Portland Maine, is fighting a lawsuit brought by a former school nurse. Lola Charette was fired for taking one of... Read More

  1. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from mjlrn97
    I was going to try to stay out of this one, but I can't help it: I totally agree with what was said here. I think that nurse deserved to lose her job for exercising truly horrendous judgment---all other considerations aside. You DO NOT take a child off campus without her parents' knowledge and permission. And how dumb is it to transport a patient ANYWHERE in your own personal vehicle? I mean, what if you got into an accident, even through no fault of your own? What if you were carjacked? What if the patient suddenly crashed and you were miles away from help of any kind?

    That nurse took total leave of her senses, and she's lucky to still have a license IMHO. She ought to chalk it all up to experience and go find another job, if she can......I hope her lawsuit gets thrown out of court.
    I agree.

    For those who think it is ok, what if she showed up with a bad toothache? Would it be ok for the nurse to take her in a school vehicle to a dentist of the nurse's choosing and not tell the parents? What about if she broke her finger in the hinge side of a door? Ok to pick out a surgeon and take her to see him in a school vehicle and not tell her parents?

    Seriously, you have to take the whole pregnancy issue out of this equation and judge it on the merit of ANY school nurse taking a child to ANY phyician for ANY medical procedure.

    steph
  2. by   sbic56
    Quote from stevielynn
    I agree.

    For those who think it is ok, what if she showed up with a bad toothache? Would it be ok for the nurse to take her in a school vehicle to a dentist of the nurse's choosing and not tell the parents? What about if she broke her finger in the hinge side of a door? Ok to pick out a surgeon and take her to see him in a school vehicle and not tell her parents?

    Seriously, you have to take the whole pregnancy issue out of this equation and judge it on the merit of ANY school nurse taking a child to ANY phyician for ANY medical procedure.

    steph
    Steph, you can't take the pregnancy issue out of this one. Of course the kid is going to allow the nurse to notify the parent if she has a toothache or broken finger, so that's a non issue. The law specifically states that confidentiality will be maintained when it comes to birth control issues for the minor, if that's what they desire. This is the piece that makes it unique.
  3. by   fergus51
    Steph, as long as there isn't a written policy like at your daughter's school, no I don't think she should be fired for taking a kid to a dentist. And I don't think for a second she would have been. We would never have heard of this case.
  4. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from fergus51
    Steph, as long as there isn't a written policy like at your daughter's school, no I don't think she should be fired for taking a kid to a dentist. And I don't think for a second she would have been. We would never have heard of this case.
    Wow, as a parent I'm just amazed at that . . .I'd get so pizzed.

    I do think we would have heard of a nurse taking a child off campus without parent's knowledge or permission regardless of the circumstances. I really do.

    steph
  5. by   CCU NRS
    Quote from stevielynn
    I agree.

    For those who think it is ok, what if she showed up with a bad toothache? Would it be ok for the nurse to take her in a school vehicle to a dentist of the nurse's choosing and not tell the parents? What about if she broke her finger in the hinge side of a door? Ok to pick out a surgeon and take her to see him in a school vehicle and not tell her parents?

    Seriously, you have to take the whole pregnancy issue out of this equation and judge it on the merit of ANY school nurse taking a child to ANY phyician for ANY medical procedure.

    steph
    I have to pretty much agree here about the wrongness of taking a kid anywhere from school without notifying a parent. ANYWHERE, that should be in the policy I know my kids have to be signed out from school they can't just leave and if this nurse had the authority to leave school with a kid who says she isn't taking them to prostitute on the street. Your child should not be taken off campus by anyone without your express and usually written permission, you have to have a permission slip to go on a field trip for Christ sake! I personally believe this situation would warrant some thinking time on the part of the Pt(student) give info, councel on the seriousness, beg, plead and bargain for parental involvment and if all else failed leave the Pt(student) to make her own decisions and find her own way to go to a clinic.
  6. by   Jeanine
    I agree that it might not have been such an issue with the school district if it were not related to pregnancy/abortion. Either way though, it was still wrong of the nurse to take the student off of the grounds, and she really screwed herself when she put her in the car. First off, even if she had sworn the student to secrecy, what teenager can keep a secret like that. Then, she brought another student to the follow up visit!?! Where's that confidentiality? If she really felt the need to help, help her out on your own time. Since when is "taking student to a planned parenthood appt." in a school nurse's book of care plans?
  7. by   URO-RN
    BANGOR, Maine, May 4, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - School Administrative District 27, Portland Maine, is fighting a lawsuit brought by a former school nurse. Lola Charette was fired for taking one of the students, without parental consent, out of class to an off-campus 'clinic' where the girl was given a pregnancy test and an abortifacient drug.



    WHAT THE HELL WAS SHE THINKING?:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire


    Take her license away! NOW. :angryfire
    Last edit by Jo Anne on May 9, '05
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    There's not even a written policy about this sort of incident at the hospital i work at, but i just KNOW that i would be overstepping if i did it anyway.
  9. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Since when is "taking student to a planned parenthood appt." in a school nurse's book of care plans?
    Excellent question.
  10. by   smk1
    just as a side note, am i the only one who went to a high school with an "open" campus? Just meaning that no one had to sign me out, i could leave if i so chose.... We left for break to get coffee, lunch etc... I realize that it sounds like she was missing class time, but just from some of the posts was wondering if the freedom to come and go was unique to my school...
  11. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    I had an "open" lunch in HS, and i remember several girls taking themselves to the health dept.
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from SMK1
    just as a side note, am i the only one who went to a high school with an "open" campus? Just meaning that no one had to sign me out, i could leave if i so chose.... We left for break to get coffee, lunch etc... I realize that it sounds like she was missing class time, but just from some of the posts was wondering if the freedom to come and go was unique to my school...
    Our high school is unfortunately open at lunch - which we have tried for years to change but the teachers don't want to police the kids at lunch so it is just easier to have the campus open. So, they get stoned kids to teach in the afternoon.

    Even though the campus is open, you still have to sign a student out for anything - I took my daughter to a dentist appt. at the beginning of lunch a few weeks ago, thinking that since she can walk to the mercantile across the street from the dentist, I could drive her to the dentist. Her appt went over the lunch 40 minute time period and I took her back and signed her in and got in trouble for taking her to the dentist w/o signing her out in the first place.

    No one can take my daughter off campus without being on a list that I've already given to the office. No one.

    I've been calling around and all schools so far have very strict policies about taking kids off campus.

    Even for school-related events, the parents have to sign paperwork saying it is ok to go on the bus to the football game or the field trip.

    I have to sign for my daughter to take a Tylenol and she has to take it in the office from a school employee or the nurse. She cannot carry it in her purse or backpack.

    The restrictions are many . . .which is why I think this nurse must not have put her thinking cap on that day.

    steph
  13. by   CCU NRS
    Quote from SMK1
    just as a side note, am i the only one who went to a high school with an "open" campus? Just meaning that no one had to sign me out, i could leave if i so chose.... We left for break to get coffee, lunch etc... I realize that it sounds like she was missing class time, but just from some of the posts was wondering if the freedom to come and go was unique to my school...
    Yes when I went to HS it was open campus too, but times are different now, most campuses are closed, I know here in my city all are, I also know that smoking anything anywhere on campus is against the law, they are minors and therefore forbidden to own cigarettes and they routinely have drug dogs circulating and if there are drugs even in a vehicle there will be suspension and possibly arrest.

    Freedom aint free anymore huh?

    I guess as a parent i am torn, I am glad my kids are drug free but i feel they also feel like they are under constant surveillance.

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