School Nurse Sues Over Being Fired For Taking Student for Pregnancy Test And Abortifa - page 3

BANGOR, Maine, May 4, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - School Administrative District 27, Portland Maine, is fighting a lawsuit brought by a former school nurse. Lola Charette was fired for taking one of... Read More

  1. by   rsh3rn
    Why does everyone keep thinking of this young lady as a child? At least in my state if you are pregnant you are emancipated, legally an adult. As for the leaving school thing it may have been poor judgement, but leaving school grounds with faculty members is probably not too foreign an idea I know I did back in the day. Gotta wonder are those that are against this nurse against abortion in general? I'm not picking a fight, just think personal beliefs may be involved. If this was a strange lump on the girl's breast that the nurse took her to have biopsied would this even be an issue?
    Last edit by rsh3rn on May 7, '05 : Reason: i cant type
  2. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    If this was a strange lump on the girl's breast that the nurse took her to have biopsied would this even be an issue?
    Yes, it would be, it would STILL be stepping out of the professional scope, a conflict of interest.

    This thread isn't about abortion, by the way.
  3. by   rsh3rn
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    Yes, it would be, it would STILL be stepping out of the professional scope, a conflict of interest.
    Where is this conflict of intrest. student in trouble taken to proper health facility. I recall a recent thread on here that a pharmacist was cited for not dispencing the morning after pill. Sorry, but this is to gray an area to fire a person over if the rule isn't documented how can they enforce it, leave alone proper procedures obviously no union involved here.
  4. by   rsh3rn
    This thread isn't about abortion, by the way.[/QUOTE]

    I realize this, but I see a lot of names on here firing at the nurse who also listed themselves against abortion at one point or another
  5. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Twoe separate issues though, the nurse could have taken her to a gynecologist jsut for a check up and she still would have been wrong for doing it. Taking the student out of the building was wrong, for whatever reason that she did it is beside the point.
  6. by   sbic56
    Quote from markjrn
    I have been to Fort Kent. I have worked there. I know people there in the healthcare field. It is a French speaking, conservative town, I think with a thriving Cathloic population. These may be contributing factors.
    I agree with you there. Secondly, in these small towns, it would be quite acceptable for staff to take a child off grounds or for them to get a ride from a teacher, etc. Making a case on the basis of breaking an unwritten policy is going to be difficult, as it happens often. It was the reason that this nurse took the girl offf grounds, not that any policy was broken.

    This thread isn't about abortion, by the way.
    This really is about abortion; if the girl received only the pregnancy test, it would never have become an issue.
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    This really is about abortion; if the girl received only the pregnancy test, it would never have become an issue.
    I disagree, because:

    Taking the student out of the building was wrong, for whatever reason that she did it is beside the point.
  8. by   sbic56
    Marie

    I hear that argument. but the point is, the policy was never recognized as being even an unwritten one until something occurred that wasn't acceptable to this superintendent. It would have been a known, written policy if the school district really felt that strongly about kids going off grounds with staff. Cultures vary throughout the country. Rural upstate Maine is alot different than even southern Maine, believe me! To give you an idea how different it is... anyone who thinks they can just move up there and fit in, is mistaken. Even if you are from 200 miles south, you will still always be from "away." :chuckle
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from sbic56
    I agree with you there. Secondly, in these small towns, it would be quite acceptable for staff to take a child off grounds or for them to get a ride from a teacher, etc. Making a case on the basis of breaking an unwritten policy is going to be difficult, as it happens often. It was the reason that this nurse took the girl offf grounds, not that any policy was broken.


    This really is about abortion; if the girl received only the pregnancy test, it would never have become an issue.
    I live in a very small town. I can guarantee you that it is NOT acceptable for staff to take a child off the school grounds without parental knowledge or permission.

    This isn't about abortion to me. It is about the nurse crossing the line and taking a child off campus in a school vehicle . . . to get an ice cream or a tattoo or a doctor's appointment or anything else. Moe makes a great point - one I've brought up before. What would the school's liability be if the nurse, in a school vehicle, got into a car accident and the child was injured?

    The fact that child sexual abuse has made it almost impossible to be around children without a background check would surely have crossed this nurse's mind when she took it upon herself to make decisions for a child she has no connection with. You have to have a background and fingerprint check to be a Little League Coach or a Sunday School teacher or help with our youth group or be a teacher's aide.

    This has nothing to do with confidentiality. Or abortion. It has to do with a public employee taking an incredible risk - now she just has to live with the consequences of her actions.

    steph
  10. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    This isn't about abortion to me. It is about the nurse crossing the line and taking a child off campus in a school vehicle . . . to get an ice cream or a tattoo or a doctor's appointment or anything else. Moe makes a great point - one I've brought up before. What would the school's liability be if the nurse, in a school vehicle, got into a car accident and the child was injured?
    Exactly.
  11. by   sbic56
    steph

    One of these days, you and I are going to agree on something...it has to happen! Until then, I appreciate your level headed and nonprovocative debating style. Just wanted you to know that.
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from sbic56
    steph

    One of these days, you and I are going to agree on something...it has to happen! Until then, I appreciate your level headed and nonprovocative debating style. Just wanted you to know that.
    Actually I think we have already agreed on something . . just can't remember what it was.

    Hey, would you mind telling my husband I'm levelheaded and nonprovocative? :chuckle

    steph
  13. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from fergus51
    This has nothing to do with her taking students off campus. Nothing. If you buy that one, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in. If she had taken them off campus to have an ice cream cone, do you think we would be reading about it? No one would be so outraged if that was the case. This is all about teen sexuality and the morning after pill. It would have been smarter for this nurse to make the appointment for the girl and call her a cab, but in the end this isn't about her being off campus.
    Well actually, anytime my kids were going off campus I needed to sign a permission slip...this has always been written school policy in my schools.

    Outrage is greater because of where she took the girl, no doubt. The school district is also covering itself...by firing the nurse.

    I thought the same thing Fergus..call the cab and even given her $$ for the fare and stop there. That would have been the smartest decision, for sure.

    When our caring instincts kick in (such as with a distraught patient...specially a child) our felt duty to support them may supercede our concern with policy. And I've been there, so my heart goes out to this nurse.

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