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No. 40
Old Sep 15, 2009, 04:50 PM

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I am not a xenophobe, but I have a big problem with our government giving visas to foreigners in the middle of a recession. How do stop that?
Another thought. I went for my 6 month endoscopy yesterday. I have been doing this for about 3 years now. I don't see the familiar Caucasian nurses anymore. I only see 1 Caucasian staff now, with the exception of 2 rich Caucasian doctors in the entire endoscopy suite. Oh, another surprise greeted me yesterday. I was wheeled in and there stood a young asian holding the endoscopy scope, and another one verifying with me on the monitor my name and other identifying information. They were called "techs." The nurses always did these things. So I guess less nurses, more jobs created for "techs." What happened to all my other nurse friends? Don't tell me they all retired! New grads for sure. And I hear new grad Americans cannot get jobs. Even doctors now call all the corporate hospitals "little manila."

This comment does not identify nurses, but the sight of it frightens me. I used to go to a shopping center business where I got my nails, pedicures done. All Caucasians. Now all Asians. The chiropractor kiosks, and other kiosks all Asian. I not only am justifibably anxious about my health care, but the foreign culture extending into every area of our lives. What is going to happen to the American way of life and culture? Caucasian minorities in all the schools and colleges. I attend job search workshops sponsored by the State Unemployment Commission for part of my UI benefits. You have to search hard to find any Caucasian staff, or teachers that give the workshops. However, I must say, there was a very poor appearing Mexican lady that only did cna care, hardly spoke English. Probably an illegal, busting her butt to do everything she could to get work. It did make me feel very badly, because there are still a few honest, kind people around like her. Not the illegals that come into our country, wave their flags shouting this is their country, and trying to make Spanish the legal language of America.

I get unemployment benefits because I was fired for calling 911 for an end stage respiratory failure patient that the P. Ma... did not make rounds or even get vital signs. As nursing supervisor, the only reason I knew of it was because the husband came to me at the desk and complained that his wife wasn't taken care of and had not seen 1 staff member come into her room well into the afternoon.

Adding to that, in California, nurses are mandated reporters. They incur not only a misdemeanor, but loss of license. But I was easily called by the PHIL M.... a whistleblower and fired. To top that, the Department of Health substantiated all the patient danger and neglect I reported. At this PH M... controlled facility, all had relatives and friends that worked there.

Further, if you will look if you are in a nursing staff majority of foreigners, you will always find a Caucasian manager, or administrator.
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No. 41
Old Sep 15, 2009, 05:00 PM

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I agree strongly to this! They used to need a "sponsoring hsp" or agency...what is the deal
Guess!! Maybe healthcare lobbyist have something to do with this.
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No. 42
from karenchad
Old Sep 15, 2009, 05:28 PM
Updated Sep 20, 2009 at 12:13 AM by NRSKarenRN

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maybe were should all turn in our nursing licenses and become tech's- we may not be paid our worth but at least we would have full time work with over time. to answer the where are the familiar causasion nurses in the Endo suite- they were probably handed" buy-out packages "and shown the door like a few of my older colleagues were done 1 month at NJ hospital . 29, 32 year of service RN's. The one left of the 3 RN's (30 years experience at this hospital we started together when we baby nurses in 80's) was having a conversation in the parking lot AFTER work with a hospital v male lab tech ( at the hospital for many years)- the nursing manager asked the male lab tech the next day what the 2 of them were talking about for 45 minutes. Can you imagine- what nerve!! I told her to tell the creep manager: message oil and prospective use. None of the nurses laid off were old- started there in their early 20's + 30 years= 50 something. Hardly ready for the grave. The one left was told it was part of her job to TEACH the OR tech's ENDO- I guess so in a few months she can be let go also.

Can you also imagine your elderly parent or grandparent being given sedation/anesthesia and trying like heck to UNDERSTAND these people. I see our american elderly being SHOVED over in turning by these foriegners and just cringe at the old brittle bones and shearing of the friable tissues. I can see the look on the patients face of pain and they just don't understand the accents.
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No. 43
from karenchad
Old Sep 15, 2009, 05:41 PM

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We need to feed the american hungry and employee the american unemployed before we feed and employ other's. I'm sorry to say. Our boarders should be closed until we get our homeland MESS straightened out. I didn't spend all that time on my american butt in an american nursing program learning/taking tests in my language- english just to be PUSHED our by the downtrotten of foreign counties. And neither did any of the american nurses after me. This is disgraceful. It was old american nurses who fought to enhance nursing skill, education and wages to a more sophisticated/learned level it is today
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No. 44
from karenchad
Old Sep 15, 2009, 05:56 PM

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I think it's all come on the heels of this Cultural Competency/Diversity, and add this Customer Service bull, blah, blah.Bs. I guess we are supposed to roll over and play dead and do it with a smile- Is there anything else we can do for you, Did you find everything(my income producing position) alright?" "At your service" I'm all for cultural competency and respecting others but the total absorbing of and obliterating of the american culture-has gone too far. It's costing our jobs, ecomony and whole way of life
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No. 45
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Old Sep 15, 2009, 06:16 PM

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It's still the answer- foreign nurses work for less dollars/hour and will accept less benefits than american nurses because what they are handed over here is MUCH more than what they would get in their own country, Doctors also. and will give no lip or questioning becasue that is what they are used to in their own countries- subservant/supression. They are happy they have indoor plumbing
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No. 46
Old Sep 15, 2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by karenchad View Post
We need to feed the american hungry and employee the american unemployed before we feed and employ other's. I'm sorry to say. Our boarders should be closed until we get our homeland MESS straightened out. I didn't spend all that time on my american butt in an american nursing program learning/taking tests in my language- english just to be PUSHED our by the downtrotten of foreign counties. And neither did any of the american nurses after me. This is disgraceful. It was old american nurses who fought to enhance nursing skill, education and wages to a more sophisticated/learned level it is today
What more can I say?
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No. 47
Old Sep 15, 2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by karenchad View Post
I think it's all come on the heels of this Cultural Competency/Diversity, and add this Customer Service bull, blah, blah.Bs. I guess we are supposed to roll over and play dead and do it with a smile- Is there anything else we can do for you, Did you find everything(my income producing position) alright?" "At your service" I'm all for cultural competency and respecting others but the total absorbing of and obliterating of the american culture-has gone too far. It's costing our jobs, ecomony and whole way of life
Again, what more can I say, except I now become nauseous if I even hear a hint of the word "diversity." Every workshop we go to shoves this down our throats. "Diversity, accommodate, learn to speak "their" language.
But remember the Caucasian managers, and CEO administrators who do the hiring.
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No. 48
Old Sep 15, 2009, 07:38 PM

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It's still the answer- foreign nurses work for less dollars/hour and will accept less benefits than american nurses because what they are handed over here is MUCH more than what they would get in their own country, Doctors also. and will give no lip or questioning becasue that is what they are used to in their own countries- subservant/supression. They are happy they have indoor plumbing
Just keep remembering the rich CEOs that perpetuate this condition with their greed. Do you really think this country is going to recover? It is even worse now. Now if an American nurse has a job or gets one, the slavery is just beginning. The government and corporations have a good handle on how to make things better for themselves. Why do you hear so much on the news about how "jobs that will never come back?" It's because the ones that have created this recession have a well-oiled grip on becoming richer. It still just seems like the Mexico direction. Why can't we nurses get together and become lobbyists ourselves?

Why, why, why?
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No. 49
Old Sep 16, 2009, 11:20 AM

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"Nursing executives need to spend the resources they use to recruit international nurses for domestic nurses."
in my opinion, it is neither ethical or moral to recruit nurses from other countries that are also experiencing a nursing shortage to work and fill our own nurse shortages.
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