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from dscrn
Old Sep 13, 2009, 08:56 PM

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I notice that you are a traveling nurse...most can not pick up and travel to where the jobs are...if you are offered an assignment in a hospital, I can assume that they had a shortage....
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No. 11
from lee1
Old Sep 13, 2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MedSurg32RN View Post
The point is that unserved areas need to recruit in areas where students are having a a hard time finding a job.

Nursing executives need to spend the resources they use to recruit international nurses for domestic nurses.

Last the job market will recover.
The first sentence I understand, just what did the second sentence mean????? We certainly do not need international nurses when there aren't jobs for our own graduates.
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No. 12
from Maria,RN
Old Sep 14, 2009, 04:36 AM

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NURSING SHORTAGE..... Where?
Internally, it seems like a shortage when you are understaffed and the nurse patient ratio in nearly impossible. Yet, on the outside, many,many nurses unemployed. I graduated in May 09 and I am just about to give up on sending my resume out. There will never be a shortage. I'd like to know who thought it was funny to spread this rumor.
I settled for a job at a nursing home where 2 nurses and 3 aides are enough for 46 residents
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No. 13
from mattb130
Old Sep 14, 2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lee1 View Post
just what did the second sentence mean????? We certainly do not need international nurses when there aren't jobs for our own graduates.
I'm pretty sure MedSurg32RN meant it's time to stop recruiting foreign nurses. Yes, many facilities still want to import RN's when so many here are purposely being short staffed and many other US nurses can't even find work.
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No. 14
from mattb130
Old Sep 14, 2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurse4_Life View Post
NURSING SHORTAGE..... Where?
Internally, it seems like a shortage when you are understaffed and the nurse patient ratio in nearly impossible. Yet, on the outside, many,many nurses unemployed. I graduated in May 09 and I am just about to give up on sending my resume out. There will never be a shortage. I'd like to know who thought it was funny to spread this rumor.
I settled for a job at a nursing home where 2 nurses and 3 aides are enough for 46 residents
Me too.
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No. 15
from tackett
Old Sep 14, 2009, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lee1 View Post
The first sentence I understand, just what did the second sentence mean????? We certainly do not need international nurses when there aren't jobs for our own graduates.

This is exactly what i meant when I wrote my first comment....
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Old Sep 14, 2009, 08:11 AM

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My hospital is laying off 35 RN's today - this is the trend in Massachussetts now - I am a Psychiatric Nurse with 20 years Psych experience and i am not safe - really feel bad for the countless many people that were encouraged to go into this field and now are being turned away - Nurses are about people and hospitals are about the bottom line?
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Old Sep 14, 2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dscrn View Post
I notice that you are a traveling nurse...most can not pick up and travel to where the jobs are...if you are offered an assignment in a hospital, I can assume that they had a shortage....
Most of the time the facilities where I work have some one out on maternity leave, or are training new hires who cannot take care of pts for a few months (dialysis has a big learning curve, and many states have laws forbidding RNs w/ less than 1 year in dialysis from being charge nurse). A lot of times A traveler is needed to be charge while a new hire is learing the specialty, and getting enough experience to be charge.

I have also filled in when reg staff members have been severely ill.
Additionally, many places that use travelers cannot keep regular staff because their working condtions are terrible and they treat ther nurses like crap.

I completed my last assignment the end of August. I am home now and there are no jobs- too many nurses here. My husband wants me to stop traveling for a while. I have applied at six different facilities, and no one has called me for an interview.

Every nurse I know from where I live has become a traveler because there are no jobs here, and working conditions and pay are very poor. Many travlers are now on unemployment because they can't find a travel assigment or a reg job.

I absolutely stand by my statement that there is no shortage.
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No. 18
from pennyaline
Old Sep 14, 2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dscrn View Post
The nursing shortage is HERE...and will get worse. .. Retiring staff is not replaced, nurse to patient ratios are increased, No joke intended, but when staffing "numbers" include a ".5"...where exactly does one find half of a person??

There is, right now, NO nursing shortage. Perhaps there will be one in the future, but at this moment there is a surplus of unemployed nurses.

Retiring staff is not being replaced not because there is no one to take the position but because that's what management calls reduction by attrition. They have no intention of replacing the staff member who left.

Nurse/patient ratios are increasing not because there are no nurses to hire but because that's how management saves money.

It is all intentional. It is all being done by design. It is an act of bookkeeping. Nursing positions are being eliminated via accounting.

Multitudes of nurses turn up to apply for every open position they hear about. The majority of them wont even be considered, as hiring managers have so many applicants to choose from they can afford to be picky. It's murderous for a nurse, experienced or not, to get even a med/surg position nowadays because the competition is so fierce.

And by the way, staffing hours have been measured in projected FTEs for decades now. The phenomenon of 0.5, 0.25, 0.75, etc. in staffing demand is nothing new.
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No. 19
Old Sep 14, 2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pennyaline View Post
There is, right now, NO nursing shortage. Perhaps there will be one in the future, but at this moment there is a surplus of unemployed nurses.

Retiring staff is not being replaced not because there is no one to take the position but because that's what management calls reduction by attrition. They have no intention of replacing the staff member who left.

Nurse/patient ratios are increasing not because there are no nurses to hire but because that's how management saves money.

It is all intentional. It is all being done by design. It is an act of bookkeeping. Nursing positions are being eliminated via accounting.

Multitudes of nurses turn up to apply for every open position they hear about. The majority of them wont even be considered, as hiring managers have so many applicants to choose from they can afford to be picky. It's murderous for a nurse, experienced or not, to get even a med/surg position nowadays because the competition is so fierce.

And by the way, staffing hours have been measured in projected FTEs for decades now. The phenomenon of 0.5, 0.25, 0.75, etc. in staffing demand is nothing new.
Exactly.
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