Pt gets charged with 3rd Degree assualt for throwing Urine filled bedpan

  1. 17 Happen at a local hospital here in Denver. So glad that someone is putting their foot down and making an example that it is in no way ok to hurl your body fluids at someone. It is assault and should be treated as such. Nobody wants your body fluids on them because you cannot go smoke!

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31268290/detail.html
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    From 'Denver, Colorado'; 30 Years Old; Joined May '09; Posts: 61; Likes: 78.

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  3. Visit  PennyWise profile page
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    Seems most of the people making comments (other than the ones taking jabs at each other over...............w/e) understand the patient is in the wrong. I don't think I saw a single "Oh, but he was sick, they should just let it go" comment.

    IDK. Maybe making assertiveness training a part of nursing school would help. Power perceived is power achieved. If you give the impression that you hit back, you'll never have to hit anyone.

    People with low brow mentalities like the bedpan thrower mentioned in the article are typically bullies, they only do that stuff with people who they think will tolerate it.
    imintrouble, Lovely_RN, TopazLover, and 2 others like this.
  4. Visit  lindarn profile page
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    Moral of the story- do not clean up a mess from a patient throwing a bedpan, or whatever, until the police get there.

    Take a picture of the mess with your camera phone, as evidence for the police, and hospital administration, who are more interested in positive patient comments on Press-Gainey, than protecting their staff!

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN ,CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
    MJB2010, JZ_RN, imintrouble, and 17 others like this.
  5. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Just a side note, but I'm thinking the patient who is well enough to repeatedly ask for a cigarette and then throw a full bedpan (presumably he was able to get it out from under himself without spilling?) is READY FOR DISCHARGE.
    MJB2010, JZ_RN, NayRN, and 17 others like this.
  6. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Then I'd probably get disciplined for using my camera phone, lol
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  7. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    It'a about time patients are held accountable.
    JZ_RN, imintrouble, Zookeeper3, and 8 others like this.
  8. Visit  chevyv profile page
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    Try getting spit on in the face because you can't get all the narcs you want. Saliva in the eye is nasty. Bet the DA won't do a thing
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  9. Visit  chevyv profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    Then I'd probably get disciplined for using my camera phone, lol
    I would be walked out for sure! I'm serious.
  10. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    Never move anything when the police are called. They need to see the scene of the crime. You don't need to take pictures, just make sure they do. Nothing is more powerful in court than pictures.

    I agree with the poster who mentioned assertivness training. Many times we try to make nice (P-G) and what we really need to do is protect our other patients and all staff. I suspect this incident caused a huge distruption in ICU.
    JZ_RN, imintrouble, and VivaLasViejas like this.
  11. Visit  Ruby Vee profile page
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    good on that nurse for calling the police in the first place! hopefully if patients are held accountable for their outrageous behavior, they'll think twice. now lets hope the judge and jury have some common sense and continue to hold this low life accountable!
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  12. Visit  whichone'spink profile page
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    The nurse that was assaulted was a male. If there were more males in nursing, there would be more assault charges for turd patients who act like this when they don't get their way. Men fight back, why can't women?
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  13. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    Quote from whichone'spink
    The nurse that was assaulted was a male. If there were more males in nursing, there would be more assault charges for turd patients who act like this when they don't get their way. Men fight back, why can't women?

    The question may be a good one. One of the reasons few of either sex fight back is we have been taught non violent responses to de-escalate rather than always meeting force with force. I have seen the results of take downs that resulted in broken bones, permanent deformities, nerve damage and other unanticipated consequences of stopping inappropriate behaviors. I have not personally seen it result in death but that would not be out of the range of consequences.

    Just so you know, there are women on these boards that you would not want to say such a sexist thing about. They would have you on your back crying uncle quickly. If you don't think a woman can fight back you are very wrong.

    One of the issues with some men is that they need to learn that defusing a situation before it escalated to anyone finding the need to fight. Most patients who would engage in assaults would not be in a position to have an able bodied man fight them. Healthy people don't spend much time in hospital. Most psychotic people are not violent. That leaves very few that one would want to engage in a fight. If they are well enough to fight an able bodied man, do they need to be in hospital? If they will to be assaultive I would rather see them out and put into a more restrictive environment, jail comes to mind.

    One can be assertive without fighting.
  14. Visit  kabfighter profile page
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    Quote from whichone'spink
    The nurse that was assaulted was a male. If there were more males in nursing, there would be more assault charges for turd patients who act like this when they don't get their way. Men fight back, why can't women?
    I'm not willing to put my butt on the line to retaliate against a patient. I'd be more than willing to help restrain a patient or deter a patient from becoming violence in a 'show of force', though. Oddly enough my hospital's emergency procedures use that exact phrase when outlining how to deal with a violent or potentially violent patient. However, if I was being physically attacked (not having things thrown at me from a distance), I would gladly engage in fisticuffs to subdue someone who is actively causing me physical harm from close range.

    Nurses aren't the cuddly lovebugs that people like to imagine we are, nor should we be.
    lindarn, JZ_RN, and proud nurse like this.


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